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  Bill Bowens Trail of Naivete

  by Psychdigg in

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  i did a search on bill bowens postings in this forum.

  very interesting.

  revealing!.

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  COMF

  Shift key stuck?

  The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
  Moves on: nor all your piety nor wit
  Shall lure it back to cancel half a line,
  Nor all your tears wash out a word of it.
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  Bill Bowens Trail of Naivete

  by Psychdigg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i did a search on bill bowens postings in this forum.

  very interesting.

  revealing!.

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  COMF

  Is it as bad as Bill Bowen claims? Without hard evidence NO!!

  Without hard evidence, you don't know how bad it is, so the answer is neither "yes" nor "no", it's "mmm... could be." You're guilty of the things you accuse Bill of.

  COMF

  The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
  Moves on: nor all your piety nor wit
  Shall lure it back to cancel half a line,
  Nor all your tears wash out a word of it.
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  **Can trust ever be earned once it is lost?**

  by butalbee in

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  in a relationship, their is 3 basic components: .

  1. trust.

  2. loyalty.

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  COMF

  Bee, if you're the one who did the betraying, then you're asking of people here something they can't give. You want their answers to stand in as the answer from the one who was betrayed. It doesn't work that way. Only that person can answer your question.

  For what it's worth, though, with me, betrayal would ruin forever any hope of an intimate, loving, trusting relationship. I could continue to have a relationship of some sort with the person, perhaps even still dating or sleeping with them if I so chose, but it would be from a new perspective in which I view them as useful to fill a need for company when I want it, but to be kept behind an impenetrable wall emotionally and watched warily for indications of further manipulation or deceit. If we were living together, that would of course end immediately.

  Could true repentance be defined as crying every second of the day cuz you feel horrible that you destroyed the one true thing that you ever had in your life, all for absolutely nothing????

  Nah. That's just feeling sorry for yourself. Has nothing to do with repentance.

  "I just want to start over again." - Murderer Justin Pendleton to the detective, in Murder By Numbers, after his plan unravels and he gets caught.

  The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
  Moves on: nor all your piety nor wit
  Shall lure it back to cancel half a line,
  Nor all your tears wash out a word of it.
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  Did Satan prove God wrong? a possible bibical flaw

  by Leander in

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  most people are familiar with the account of job where satan makes the claim that the only reason humans serve god is because of selfish reasons.

  god allowed satan to test this theory on job, so job was beset by numerous trials but he refused to give up on god or blame him in anyway.. it would appear that satan was proved wrong in this particular bible account but was he really?

  would the majority of mankind follow jobs example if they were faced with similar trials?

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  COMF

  Satan makes the claim that the only reason humans serve God is because of selfish reasons. God allowed Satan to test this theory on Job

  Actually, you're repeating the society's spin on it, which involves a lot of insinuation and implication on Satan's part--things you have to "discern" with "eyes of faith". In the actual story as written in the book, a reference to "humans" never comes up in the challenge. God says to Satan, "Have you set your heart upon my servant Job, that there is no one like him, blah blah blah?"

  Satan answers, "Is it for nothing that Job has feared God? Have not you yourself put up a hedge about him and about his house blah blah blah?"

  See, in the book, the literal relating of the story, it's all about Job. Nobody else. The WBTS added in all that stuff about "by implication the rest of humankind and even God's favorite angel blah blah blah".

  COMF

  The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
  Moves on: nor all your piety nor wit
  Shall lure it back to cancel half a line,
  Nor all your tears wash out a word of it.
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  I finally got my tattoo...

  by Princess in

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  as a surprise for my husbands birthday, i got this tattoo.

  the picture is kind of blurry, it was hard to take!.

  i know i said i was going to get it on my posterior, but i wanted to be able to see it!

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  COMF

  I wanted to be able to see it! It's on my front left hip.

  Wow, I'd sure like to see that!

  Not the tattoo... the hip. Everybody I know only has the two in back.

  COMF

  The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
  Moves on: nor all your piety nor wit
  Shall lure it back to cancel half a line,
  Nor all your tears wash out a word of it.
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  The sob story continues,,,

  by Elsewhere in

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  i think i may have pissed off the gods or something.

  ;) my luck just turned further south... i just totaled my car.. i was coming around the bend where 360 north exits to the 183 east and west fork in arlington texas.

  as i came around, there was suddenly a long line of stopped cars.

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  COMF

  Sorry to hear of this, David. I know that spot well, having driven it regularly coming home from Debra's house in Arlington. They're doing road work there at night on 183 and they shrink four lanes down to one immediately past the 360 exit onto 183. After spending an extra 45 minutes in it two different times, I learned to go on down 20 to Loop 12.

  Hope the insurance comes on through with no hassle for you. I'm very glad to hear you're not hurt any worse than you were.

  COMF, whose life was saved by a seatbelt in a 70 MPH head-on

  The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
  Moves on: nor all your piety nor wit
  Shall lure it back to cancel half a line,
  Nor all your tears wash out a word of it.
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  I blew off a 25 min. service meeting part tonite

  by Leander in

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  i told the presiding overseer that i'd probably be late getting home from work.

  but i actually spent my time driving around and enjoying the spring weather.. in other news i'll be going in for a job interview tomorrow within the company.

  i'm really hoping i land this job, because as soon as i can secure a new position (my old one is being phased out) i'll be exiting the stage of the jw comedy of errors.. .

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  COMF

  Wow... I remember blowing off meetings, too. It was such a wonderfully warm, luxurious feeling, to be doing something just for myself for a change instead of always for that religion. A gift to myself... evidence of love. It was glorious! Congratulations on loving yourself enough to do it, Leander.

  COMF

  The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
  Moves on: nor all your piety nor wit
  Shall lure it back to cancel half a line,
  Nor all your tears wash out a word of it.
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  Divided Households

  by Lost Diamond in

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  i'm kind of new here...i don't post much, but i read the board almost daily.

  i have a question that maybe some of you might be able to answer, or at least give me some suggestions.

  i am divorced and have custody of 2 beautiful, well-behaved children, ages 9 & 6. their father is a jw and i have drifted away, so i could say i'm mostly out of the org.. when they are with me we do not go to meetings, but when they see their father every other wkend they go meetings with him and his wife, and sometimes to service.. i have read that many of you were brought up in a divided household where one parent is a jw and the other is not.

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  COMF

  Don't talk badly about your ex, or about his wife.
  Hug your children a lot.
  Spend lots of time talking with them.
  Listen to them; ask their opinions of things. Don't be judgmental of what they say.
  Become someone they trust, someone they are comfortable with.
  Respect them. Respect their views. Let them see your respect.
  Teach them to think for themselves.
  Convince them that they are worthwhile, valuable, and lovable.

  Do this successfully, and you shouldn't have too much of a problem with JW meetings.

  The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
  Moves on: nor all your piety nor wit
  Shall lure it back to cancel half a line,
  Nor all your tears wash out a word of it.
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  Help! I have fallen in love with a Witness

  by itsalingthing in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i recently started dating my neighbor.

  a couple of nights into the late night talks, he told me the reason he hasn't dated in awhile is beacuse he is a witness.

  i was surprised, but okay with it.

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  COMF

  Ah, me...

  The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
  Moves on: nor all your piety nor wit
  Shall lure it back to cancel half a line,
  Nor all your tears wash out a word of it.
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  I feel so guilty

  by Leander in

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  2. friends

  these past few weeks i've spent a lot of time trying to decide how i want to proceed with the rest of my life.

  one of my first decisions to carry out is to break free from the wts.

  even though i've been a life long witness i feel no guilt or hesistation in leaving the only religion i've ever known.

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  COMF

  Hi, Leander. I don't recall ever responding directly to a post of yours, but I have read your posts with pleasure and agreement. I thought it might interest you to know that your thoughts are not as selfish or unusual as you seem to think. Below is a link to a post I made over a year ago, in which I mused about the same things. Note that I was unmarried and my children were grown and out on their own when I made this post, but I was living with someone. I moved out of that arrangement soon after, and have lived by myself for the past year. Am I happy? Yeah, buddy.

  In this post, I gave two links to a quoted segment from a book. Those links don't work any more, but I'll post the revised ones below as well.

  The thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=4864&site=3

  The revised links:
  - http://home.attbi.com/~fredsaw/Lindbergh/Double_Sunrise1.html
  - http://home.attbi.com/~fredsaw/Lindbergh/Double_Sunrise2.html

  Enjoy. Email me if you like.

  COMF

  And, as the cock crew, those who stood before
  The tavern shouted--"Open then the door!
  "You know how little while we have to stay,
  "And, once departed, may return no more."