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  Welcome M*A*S*H!

  by Legolas in

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  welcome to the board!

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  M*A*S*H

  Thanks very much... How kind... my own personal welcome thread.

  I must confess though I'm not totally new, just a lazy poster.

  Thanks again...
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  How the Internet Means 'The End' for Apostates and Opposers of the Society

  by slimboyfat in

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  the received wisdom is that the internet has dramatically damaged the ability of the watchtower society to gain and retain followers.

  there was a very eloquent article to that effect written some time ago by a commentator who attempted to buttress his argument with reference to the postmodern condition and the breakdown of metanarratives in todays secular society, nay, even the come-back for enlightenment notions of truth.

  in the 1970/80s there were major challenges to the watchtowers theology (great crowd in heaven) and chronology (1914) in norway, alberta canada, dublin ireland and in the newyork bethel itself: but the damage caused by those involved in the dissent was limited because knowledge was dispersed merely through personal contact and minimal use of obscure publications that seldom met the eyes of witnesses innocent of the watchtowers doctrinal and chronological vacillations in any case.

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  The only thing the internet has reduced... or put a halt to... is the amount of pornagraphic literature you find in parks or under park benches. Personally I feel this is a great shame, every now and then I like to purchase something off the 'top shelf' and leave some of the pages lying about in our local park.

  Down with the internet, up with the top shelf.
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  WHAT DOES HAPPEN AFTER DEATH????

  by chuckyy in

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  2. beliefs

  we all know the jw view on what happens at death.

  however a friend of mine lost a very young son and went to a medium.

  the medium told her the name of her son without knowing anything about her or even knowing that she had a child that died.

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  Personally I believe mediums to be on the same playing field as magicians, clever trickery can make it seem even the laws on Physics have been broken. When you watch a magician make a bunny rabbit disappear - you don't think 'Wow... he vanished Thumper!?'...no, you think, 'Wow, what a cool trick - just because I don't understand it, doesn't make real magic!'. The major difference in attitude is magicians don't claim to have 'special powers'... and we just enjoy the show.

  As you weren't not present for this reading from the Medium, it's difficult to say how 'amazing' the show was. Mediums usually get all the information they need for a 'cold reading' from the person sitting opposite!

  If you've never seen or heard of him - look up Derren Brown, he's a 'magician' in the UK who employees many of the tricks of mediums and alike... except he always explains that it's all trickery! Sometimes he gives you clues how it's done. It really is worth looking up! He has a DVD out I think.

  M*A*S*H

  PS. I should be on commision.
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  Have I been red flagged?

  by searching4? in

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  i find it very weird that in 13 years, not one jw has come knocking on my door.

  i don't live in my home town and have had no contact with witnesses ( besides my mom) since i was disfellowshipped in 1992. is it possible that my mom ( still a witness) has alerted the local kingdom hall and had me placed on the " do not call" list?

  or maybe i just live in the area of slacker witnesses?

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  The answer is obvious... the holy spirit guides them away from your door...
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  What Decisions Did You Make Only Because You Were A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  i believe that most jws are deep down inside angry over the fact that they went along with the status quo and the majority just to be accepted.

  some witnesses would like to have a tattoo, a mustache, a shaved head, a beard, a new red sportscar, etc.

  but they don't because they would be viewed as "immature".

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  I stopped believing in God.
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  SIGN OF JONAH REVEALED BY: The King of "New Jerusalem" upon the earth

  by EliJah in

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  to all that love g_d, jah, allah

  i am a messenger of jah in our modern day with the task of leading the flock of jah under authority of jesus christ reigning from the heavens above.

  the prophets of old were put into place as testimony of the authentication of the word of jah.

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  Hi Elijah

  Wow. That's amazing... you certainly must feel proud of your divine assignment! It certainly looks like our time is up... things are definately about to happen.

  I love the way you cut through all the crap and concentrate purely on the lord's words, as directed. It's wonderful...

  Surely you must have a web site? I think such divine inspired words of wisdom must be in place online for all to share? Don't you think?

  M*A*S*H
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  Did Noahs Ark drift about aimlessly in the Great Flood?

  by EliJah in

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  2. bible

  no where does it mention that noah traveled around the world in his big boat.

  in fact, is says that the ark was floating "high above the earth".

  also, what does matthew mean about "just like in the days of noah?

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  Low-Key Lysmith: Where did all the water go? What a silly question... after being on the ark all that time, all the animals would be thirsty! The rest of the water is still in circulation today, order a glass of the 'house' wine in any pub!

  As for the build up of manure, that wouldn't be a problem - it's a well known fact that it's virtually impossible to do a 'number two' in front of a stranger... so basically they held it in. Proof of this is easy to find - as most animals can cross their legs.

  Many wonder how Noah got all the insects on board - well that's easy. Most were captured the night before the flood, as he accidentally left a light on in the ark, the remaining insects were collected during the heat of the next day by leaving a small strawberry cheesecake on the roof of the ark.

  It seems also you guys don't understand how the ark 'got about'... come chaps, use your heads! Basically Noah glued all the birds feet to the roof of the ark, a special opening on the North, East, South and West would of been created just big enough for a Giraffe holding a bag of chips to put his head through - the birds would try to fly to get the chips, thus giving directional control.

  If I've missed anything, just let me know... I'm here to help.
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  Earthquake in the Middle East (Urgent)

  by EliJah in

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  19 and the great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell; and babylon the great was remembered in the sight of god, to give her the cup of the wine of the anger of his wrath.

  20 also, every island fled, and mountains were not found.

  21 and a great hail with every stone about the weight of a talent descended out of heaven upon the men, and the men blasphemed god due to the plague of hail, because the plague of it was unusually great.. meaning: the nations are of the twelve tribes of israel in the middle east.

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  Wow... thanks Elijah... was that first bit a review of that Hidalgo film? You know the one with all the horses?

  You truly are a modern day profit! You're "cut and pasting" for the good of mankind, on behalf of our saviour Jesus Christ.

  Keep up the good work - reading your posts keeps me going, keep using the sword of the spirit to cut through their 'worldly' logic. I hope and pray that our lord's holy spirit deletes all the consonants from the heritics posts.
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  No good news to report

  by gringojj in

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  well friends things had bad going very well for my wife recently.

  she had been looking a the wts critically for quite some time now.

  we would have daily discussions on how so many things didnt make sense.

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  Hi Miss G

  I'm kind of envious, it seems you have people climbing over themselves to help! It just goes to show the Internet can be a wonderful thing.

  It was nice to see your last post, but it also worried me a little... I think (if I understood correctly) that you are not currently baptized, but are thinking of taking that step? In my experience, from within the organization, baptism is seen as a wonderful and all important step in your 'spiritual growth'. I expect that your mother is also encouraging this move to baptism, from her point of view as believer, such a move could potentially save your life. Her insistence is understandable.

  It's important to remember being baptized as a JW means dedicating yourself to the organization as well as God. Once baptized if you choose to leave the organization voluntarily or are ever disfellowshipped (DFS), all ties will be severed. Your mother (and other Witness family and friends) will have to sever ties with you. My family is currently in this situation, I can't stress enough how heart-breaking it is. My sister is DFS, every week she drops her children around to see our mother (still a witness)... every week she gets upset because she never makes it past the garden gate. She gets even more upset because she can't help our mother as age and ill health catch up with her. It's truly terrible.

  Going back a bit... I really feel for you at this time, it truly can be scary. It must be even more intense for you, as your decision is also your children's. With time I found that my fears, those that lurked in the back my mind, disagreed with my more rational thought. When ever I got scared, I desperately tried to rationalize what I was scared of... sometimes it worked, sometimes I'd lay awake for hours worrying. All that's changed now is it 'works' 99% of the time. :)

  I hope you, your husband and children all enjoy the family holiday. I think the scariest thing on Halloween, is how much I enjoyed myself - especially dressing up as a grebly and scaring my nieces and nephews! There's much to see and do...
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  Ever wonder why...........

  by knot4me in

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  jw's never get dfed for being fat?

  please don't take this offensively if you are overweight, i'm a little chubby myself.

  i'm not judging.

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  So are you saying 'self harm' is socially acceptable, as long as those around are not affected? In my experience often a smoker is encouraged to quit or challenged, not because of second hand smoke, but a genuine concern for the persons health. If you knew someone who was a smoker, who always smoked outside, would that make their habit socially acceptable?

  Going back to the silly example of the dinner table, even if someone got up to go outside for a 'puff'... it's still socially acceptable for someone to say "You know Johnny you should quit, you're not doing yourself any favors". Isn't that so?

  In my original post I didn't have a "thin person" ordering "three pieces of cream cake"... but OK, lets think about that. If I were at the dinner table, and my "thin" friend ordered "three pieces of cream cake", IMHO it perhaps might be acceptable for me to say something like "blimey xxxx, are you trying to give yourself a heart attack?", or "Wow, a third piece? You're really going for it". In fact that kind of behavior happens a lot in my experience - I get a similar reaction from my friends every time we go to KFC. "Two fillet burgers and popcorn chicken?" they ask.. :-0

  Again I must stress I'm not trying to be offensive or confrontational. I really was commenting on how our society, in the developed world, doesn't tackle obesity at a social level, the way perhaps other issues are. I understand that this is primarily because peoples feelings can be hurt greatly by this issue especially. Personally I feel the problem of obesity must eventually be tackled at a social level, weight and diet related complications are causing more and more deaths in the developed world year on year. Perhaps if the risks of extra "cream cake" were better understood things might start to change.

  I feel it's more important to have all forms of social confrontation in the open rather than festing underneath our social graces, as that is how social stigmatization and descrimination arises.

  Please, please don't not confuse, or even suggest I am confusing a fat person with an obese person... they are NOT necessarily the same. The dinner table is not the place to tackle socially someone who you consider 'massively overweight'.

  Respectfully

  PS. There's a very interesting article here... http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/healthy_living/your_weight/whatis_facts.shtml (Title quote "Obesity is increasing worldwide and is becoming the world's biggest health problem. Recent reports suggest that it may soon overtake cigarette smoking as a serious health risk")