I find it funny how all the 'nu-lite' appears to those outside JW.borg as flip flopping, scrambling around in desparate fits to keep the religion going; to those still in it is proof that G is guiding the organisation and moving it forward. They need new light in some ways - otherwise what are the FDS for really?
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THE WBATS AND THEIR CONSTANT HEADACHE SINCE 1914!
by ADJUSTMENTS inthe wbats and their gb have done some major pr damage control with the "old" new light of the overlapping generation in 2010, and the recent new light of the fds arrangement in 2013, it has helped stave off some of their bleeding.
i can remember at the time when it was first announced it went completely over my head, i didn't even bat an eye or loose a step.
i just didn't understand at the time (not completely understanding jw doctrine and chronology, and just what the jw cult leadership bets on for the rank and file when releasing new light) how critical of a so-called "adjustment" that was, until several years later and being able to finally see some old light through research and connecting the dots.
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Well, IT HAS BEGUN. See the future of the WTBTS in print.
by DATA-DOG ini hate to read the wt, but i skimmed the july 15 study edition.
i found many examples of propaganda, of course, but a couple things really stood out.
1) the future of the preaching work.
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Do you think when God's active force is 'spirit guiding' (not inspiring of course) the JW.borg writing department, he now 'guides' directly in HTML? There must be the odd time J is sat on his throne looking down at some writer's screen thinking, 'bloody hell man, float that div right' or 'oh come on, that's much easier to do in jquery'.
Oh dear, sorry, that turned into a kind of geeky developer joke.
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The Illusion of Superiority
by Coded Logic inafter reading dozens and dozens of posts and hundreds of comments, it seems to me that a great many people on this forum think that since they figured out ttatt, they must therefore be a highly intelligent and incredibly rational individual.
let me take a moment to congratulate everyone.
its a big step to figure this out - i know.. that said, it doesn't make you a genius!
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Hang on Viviane, I buy fish from the chip shop all the time... they definately do not have bones.
Anyway...
fiSH / noun noun: fish ; plural noun: fishies ; plural noun: Double cod 1. a limbless cold-blooded battered animal which goes well with chips and mushy peas.
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Education
by M*A*S*H injust looking on jw.org at an education related topic; http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201210/what-parents-can-do/.
be reasonable with regard to how much education to pursue.. as mentioned earlier, education can help prepare your child for responsible adulthood.
(genesis 2:24) but how much schooling does reaching that goal require?.
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Gustv, a member of my family still part of the borg was an elder and university lecturer (prof) at the same time, somewhat ironic!
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Education
by M*A*S*H injust looking on jw.org at an education related topic; http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201210/what-parents-can-do/.
be reasonable with regard to how much education to pursue.. as mentioned earlier, education can help prepare your child for responsible adulthood.
(genesis 2:24) but how much schooling does reaching that goal require?.
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Just looking on JW.org at an education related topic; http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201210/what-parents-can-do/
Be reasonable with regard to how much education to pursue.
As mentioned earlier, education can help prepare your child for responsible adulthood. (Genesis 2:24) But how much schooling does reaching that goal require?
Do not assume that your child must attend a university to make a decent living. There are other options that are less costly. In fact, in some cases those with trade skills can make as good a living as university graduates.
I was curious about that Genesis quote...
That is why a man will leave his father and his mother and he will stick to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
Are they trying to suggest we only need enough learning to leave 'mum and dad', shack up with a wife and understand which bit goes where?
I reckon the first draft of the last paragraph above left the writing department like this...
Do not assume that your child must attend a university to make a decent living; windows do not clean themselves you know.
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Want to make Money $ with a Web Site?
by sarahsmile inhas anyone had success with a high traffic website or blog ?.
it might take a team of people to accomplish.. ads pay and people count, lots and lots of people.
does jehovahs-witness.net make money every time someone looks at the web site?
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That brought a tear to my eye...
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AMATEURS using BAD METHODS: what possible expertise does the GB possess?
by Terry inlet's start with a very basic common sense question.. if you needed surgery would you go to a graduate of medical school who had been practicing for awhile,.
or would you go to an amateur who told you god would be telling him how to peform surgery?.
don't laugh.. it is a serious question!.
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I can recommend my toothyoligist, he's much cheaper than the dentist I used to see.
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HOW TO AVOID THE A-HOLE SPIRIT OF SOME HERE...
by DATA-DOG in1) take meds for your megalomania and delusions of grandeur.. .
suggestions welcome.. .
dd.
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Can I just say I love this thread; especially when people post (effectively) "Is this topic aimed at me?"... priceless.
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My JW mother is celebrating my birthday
by M*A*S*H init's a breaktrough... my dub mother called to see if i'm free on my birthday weekend!
cool huh?!.
oh wait... no...no... oh i see, i have to hire a van for her and help her move house; "happy birthday son!
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It's a breaktrough... my dub mother called to see if I'm free on my birthday weekend! Cool huh?!
Oh wait... no...no... oh I see, I have to hire a van for her and help her move house; "Happy Birthday son! Now get that sofa loaded".
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Satan and the demons, ghosts, spirits, fortune tellers. Are they real?
by KateWild ini believe in god.
i don't believe he punishes or rewards people.
so by the same extention i don't believe any spirit beings can communicate with or influence humans.. many who do not believe in god though, have gone to fortune tellers.
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Just thinking about truthwillsetyoufree's account of their experience with a spiritualist, it reminded me of a Derren Brown series where he recreated or acted out being a healer, fortune teller, preacher, etc... what struck me was what people remembered about encounters with him especially when he was 'cold reading' individuals; they only remembered the 'hits' and forgot all the 'misses'. So when truthwillsetyoufree says the spiritualist said X (which turned out to be true) , it would also be important to know everything else said, then we may well see the misses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgdJ9-s3HEg
As for the account itself... I would guess most at a spiritualist church would be religious or formally religious!? It’s hardly going to be full of atheists! Hard times and losing people - well isn't that everyone? The sacral chakra is usually related to food intolerance not the heart (4th chakra) so that’s odd - sound like fishing to me!
As for "I've never revealed anything about myself"... cold readers are experts on reading the clues we give off without really realising it. The only way to not give anything away would be to wear a full body paper bag over yourself and make sure you do not utter a single word - even then you could be revealing a lot (eg... you may come across as a doubter). So without doing anything a cold reader might be thinking about: Which meeting did you attend? Is it your first visit or were you introduced? What time is the meeting, during the week or weekend in the day or evening? Who did you sit next to? Did you sit on your own? Did you sit at the back or the front? Are your shoes expensive? Did you chat to other people attending before the show? Is your body language defensive or open? How old are you? Do you look tired? Smiling or concentrating? etc... etc...
I have always wanted to ask spiritualist why when they receive messages, the person giving the message never (a) gives their name properly (despite later being able to deliver quite complex ideas and messages) it’s always...'it starts with a B sound brian, bob, bobby, bobby alan, yes, Alan, its Alan... and (b) if the 'spirit' can give their name and have a message for someone, why can't they give the name of the person to give it to? The spiritualist always says something like "I have a bobby, brian, sue, alan here, they died of a heart condition or something like that, they smoked I think, possibly had a buggy... does that mean anything to anybody?". If they are really talking to the dead why not "Hi, I have Christopher Hitchens here... he wants to pass a message to his brother Peter... he says 'damn it you were right! Oh, and I left my will second drawer on the right under the TV"!
Sorry for rambling!