I agree with the basic principle of what the Society was talking about.
Group rates are good for everyone who can get them: Boy Scouts, JWs, Satanists, NORML, etc.
I just balked at going them overboard with the reminders, and the guilt trip, and the hidden extra agendas.
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Dec KM indicates extreme paranoia over booking hotels NOT on the list
by truthseeker inover the years, the society has included half a page in their annual guidelines when planning for and attending the district convention.. in particular, they have been very insistent that only hotels on the recommended lodging list be used.. .
the language in this month's km is even more insistent than last years.. .
here is the text in full, with the original emphasis.. .
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Could satan be the good guy?
by LtCmd.Lore inwell i'm an atheist, so now i can feel free to think whatever i want without getting struck by lightning.
but i've been playing with this idea for quite a while:.
is satan just looking out for the poor little humans?
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"plus they became unretarded, and could tell that they were naked. (Not sure how they were supposed to reproduce if they couldn't get aroused anyway, but that's not the point.)"
This is often the subject of much speculation. I favor simple explanations: They decided that being uncovered was shameful, when in fact, it wasn't. They were married, and the only
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What do I do with all this WT literature?
by LennyinBluemont inwe have tons of bound volumes, bound kms and many books.
i only plan on keeping a few of the older books with the really insane, humiliating crap, like sewing machines being a sign of the last days.
what should i do with the rest?
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I am doing mine bit by bit on Yahoo! auctions. While a bonfire can be cathartic for some,
I was a private tutor for 12 years, and burning books is something that goes against my inner core.
There is no publication without some kind of scholarly value to someone.
Yahoo! Auctions has no charge for listing (right now), and you can use PayPal.
Here is an example auction of mine - short and sweet:
http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/215219325
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What Do You Know About Wicca?
by Anitar infor as long as i can remember, i think wicca is one of the most misunderstood of all religions.
last week, in my nature writing and literature class, a friend of mine gave a presentation of the history of wicca and an explanation of their beliefs.
basically in a nutshell, she said that wicca's believe that everything in life goes in a circle, from the life and death cycle to the calendar of holidays they celebrate.. i asked several questions, mainly trying to determine if they are a cult like the watchtower.
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Isn't "Wicca" when white people get into the hip-hop culture?
Funny pun, but it's actually very disrespectful to the significant numbers of Latino, Asian, and the small number of Caucasians who
contributed to the formation of the hip hop culture, especially in the areas of graffiti writing, breakdancing, and turntablism.
The movies "Wild Style" and "Beat Street," as well as the documentary "Style Wars" illustrate this remarkably.
The "Breakin'" movies and "Krush Groove" were good entertaiment, but were more corporate and polished, and further
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Deception in the Elder/MS Appointment Arrangement
by deaconbluez inthe society claims that all appointments of elders and ministerial servants in the congregation are made by holy spirit.
now, the inexperienced or new witness is under the impression that jehovah, by means of his holy spirit, puts it into the hearts and minds of the body of elders that so-and-so is ready to serve, and the appointment happens accordingly.. but they actually employ a sort of deception with this process, because when they say, "holy spirit directs all appointments of men in the congregation", they actually mean that each brother considered for appointment is examined to see if he has the qualities listed by paul in his letter to timothy about the qualities of congregation shepherds.
so they reason that since that writing of paul's was inspired by holy spirit, then by extension, the appointments which happen as a result of using that list of qualities to examine an individual, the appointment is made by holy spirit.. this is like saying that people are hand-picked by simon for american idol because the regional producers of the show use a list of things to look for in contestants and that list just happened to be written by simon.
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Very good way of wording it.
Very good example.
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SOLSTICE TODAY?
by jimbo in"that we will continue to look to him as the great sun from whom comes our enlightenment, guidance, and healing.
an appropriate quote for a solstice celebration!!!
can you identify this quote from watchtower bs??
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Need some WT info re: Publications
by Lady Lee ini have been doing a lot of collecting lately i have been through reexaminer's website and collecting the pdf files that atlantis (thanks to both of you for making this available) has been posting.
plus i had quite a few books in pdf form from a while ago.. on freeminds there is a list (http://www.freeminds.org/sales/wtpubs.htm) of watchtoweer publications but it stops with the following.
1990 all scripture is inspired of god and beneficial 352 pages, revised [si] 1990 mankind's search for god 384 pages [sh] 1991 the greatest man who ever lived 452 pages.
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The Pioneer publication has a prospective new home, and
so that book is off the list.
In addition to PayPal, I will accept money orders for the shipping costs, as well.
JW Discussion Forum people are getting the $0 Buy-It-Now treatment.
After a week or so, I am starting to sell them on Yahoo! Auctions to the highest bidder,
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What do you do when JW's talk to you???
by noni1974 ini usually tell them i'm da.i tend to feel like it's my way of respecting their belief that way.when i was a dub i wouldn't have wanted to talk to a df or da ed person.i was at a family wedding a couple of weeks ago and lots of people came up and said hi to me.people who know who i am and know i'm da ed.i was polite and said hi back but i didn't really talk to anyone unless they talked to me first.i'm asking this question because my second cousin came up to me and said hi.he asked how i was doing i said i'm great.then i told him i'm da ed.he said really i said yes it's been 8 happy years since i left.then i walked away.i think i was rude.what do you say when people come up to you and say hi?
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MadTiger
"I'm not da'd or df'd, but inactive but I don't see why I need to play their game. I'm polite but I have no desire to discuss religion with them. I already know the score.
Blondie"
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Learning Guitar - What is a good beginner guitar - (sell me yours?)
by confusedjw ini've been learning to play for the last 3 weeks and would like to buy myself an acoustical guitar.
i've borrowed two, one is a wonderful yamaha and the other is a fender made in china, plywood and it sounds not so good.
those of you who have gone through this - what would you recommend to me if i were your favorite poster?.
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If I had to choose, I would take the first one.
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Ive finally done it....
by diamondblue1974 init's taken two years to finally decide to have it done and further what to have....however i have now done it..... .
i am over the moon with it and sirona keeps walking round the house muttering something about it being so sexy... good decision all round methinks!.
my mother will kill me but dad thinks its cool and wants me to take him to the studio where i had it done...ah well, you can please some of your parents some of the time eh?.
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Crescent moon