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  Isolated & disconnected once outside

  by enosant in

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  is this a common issue for exjws?

  or do you find it easy to just get on with it?

  having lost all the jw friends, you find that you can't bring yourself to let others get too close, even pushing them away (old habbit dying hard).

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  enosant

  I started this thread with a quote from ColdPlay X&Y - Square One song and we've had so many interesting contributions that I forgot to add the foll. too which I think is relevant:

  Coldplay X&Y - The Hardest Part

   And the hardest part Was letting go, not taking part Was the hardest part And the strangest thing Was waiting for that bell to ring It was the strangest start I could feel it go down Bittersweet, I could taste in my mouth Silver lining the cloud Oh and I I wish that I could work it out And the hardest part Was letting go, not taking part You really broke my heart And I tried to sing But I couldn't think of anything And that was the hardest part I could feel it go down You left the sweetest taste in my mouth You're a silver lining the clouds Oh and I Oh and I I wonder what it's all about I wonder what it's all about Everything I know is wrong Everything I do, it's just comes undone And everything is torn apart Oh and it's the part That's the hardest part Yeah that's the hardest part That's the hardest part 

  Coldplay X&Y - Talk

   [..] Are you lost or incomplete? Do you feel like a puzzle, you can't find your missing piece? Tell me how do you feel? Well I feel like they're talking in a language I don't speak And they're talking it to me [..] So you don't know were you're going, and you wanna talk And you feel like you're going where you've been before You tell anyone who'll listen but you feel ignored Nothing's really making any sense at all [..] 

  Coldplay X&Y - Fix You

   [..] When you try your best, but you don't succeed When you get what you want, but not what you need When you feel so tired, but you can't sleep Stuck in reverse When the tears come streaming down your face When you lose something you can't replace When you love someone, but it goes to waste Could it be worse? [..] 

  If you don't have this album I recommend you get it. Or if you contact me I may be able to email you these songs.

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  enosant
  Un peut de bien ne peut faire de mal - es.67
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  Men and women don't understand eachother

  by ballistic in

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  'i'm starting to like you too much... i'm gunna try not to speak or see you for a few days' .

  ok, i will post back here any more things i don't understand as time progresses .

  and ladies, feel free to post anything you don't understand that men say, i'm sure we will know what is going on (not)!!

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  robdar wrote:

  My Dear Ballistic, any young woman, good looking or not, may have men waiting in the wings. When it comes to sex, most women can get it if they want it and as many times as they want it.

  Sounds like the voice of experience! But I quite agree. Sex is generally more available to women then to men, despite that most men think its the other way round! Having said that ... it doesn't leave much room for maneuvre for us (the unfair sex!?) does it! Puppets on strings? Playthings? Its down to the willingness of both parties to stay faithful to each other ...

  Computing probability of said outcome for a random couple in a population distribution skewed by depressed male self esteem ... wait ... wait ... wait ... _

  We are all f*cked aren't we? Don't worry I'm not mad or anything, its just that I have delayed accepting the obvious until now. Perhaps this forum is a good place to admit that and do something about it! What exactly remains to be worked out ...

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  enosant
  Un peut de bien ne peut faire de mal - es.67
  You will know the truth and the truth will set you three ...!
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  Men and women don't understand eachother

  by ballistic in

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  'i'm starting to like you too much... i'm gunna try not to speak or see you for a few days' .

  ok, i will post back here any more things i don't understand as time progresses .

  and ladies, feel free to post anything you don't understand that men say, i'm sure we will know what is going on (not)!!

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  Second that!

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  Un peut de bien ne peut faire de mal - es.67
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  Men and women don't understand eachother

  by ballistic in

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  'i'm starting to like you too much... i'm gunna try not to speak or see you for a few days' .

  ok, i will post back here any more things i don't understand as time progresses .

  and ladies, feel free to post anything you don't understand that men say, i'm sure we will know what is going on (not)!!

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  If only it was that simple!

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  I'm sorry, but I just had to laugh...

  by Ingenuous in

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  2. beliefs

  i was browsing around the jw-media.org site in response to another poster and suddenly found parts of the site funny - sad, but funny.

  baptism.

  this act symbolizes one's dedication to god and is taken by those of responsible age who have made an informed decision...organization.

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  It wouldn't be amiss if the the elders, POs, SOs, DOs & GB members had their own vestments!

  The meetings can be so ritualistic that they start to rival the services of the more established churches.

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  Is it possible that a child molester is NOT a pedophile?

  by sir82 in

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  2. child-abuse

  i realize many here have (unfortunately) much more experience with this sort of thing than i do.

  any personal insight, or direction to research material, would be appreciated.. there was a letter to all boes about 8-10 years ago, saying that if an appointed elder had any incidents of child abuse in his history, he had to step forward & admit such, so that his status as an elder could be reviewed.

  none of the elders in this congregation said anything.. it was later (maybe 5 years ago) discovered that one of the elders had sexually abused his daughters some time in the 80's, before his appointment.

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  enosant

  I don't have any professional training or personal experience in this matter, but it seems to me that the problem with young girls dressing provocatively is not with the girls per se. They are obviously not asking for it. But some men are weak and the combination of their sexaul arousal by what they see (as we all know, a man's arousal is greatly governed by what he sees!), opportunity and the belief that they can get away with it might in some generate illicit thoughts of satisfying their sexual desire and maybe even acting upon them.

  We have to recognise that not all men are in complete control of their faculties or urges and on seeing nubile young girls bearing a lot of flesh and wearing make-up, they may succomb. This is the danger and it doesn't seem that the girls are aware of that.

  Here in England it is practically the norm for girls to dress that way. It must be fashion or peer pressure. Somestime I see school girls of 10 or 12 wearing jelwellery and heavy make-up! I don't understand how their parents allow them to do that! But it appears that they put on the make-up after they leave the house. They want to be like little models as on tv but they have no idea of the kind of dangers they are exposing themselves to!

  I have a little girl myself and I dread to think how she is going to turn out! I think I should encourage her to be a goth!

  As to the whether a child molester is a peadophile or not, in my book they should both be treated as equally likely to re-offend and not allow them to be in situations where they might have the opportunity. It safest for the kids and also protects the abuser from himself/herself. Of course, there may be injustices, as is the case mentioned above where the teenage sexual angst of the babysitter got the better of him, but would you really want to take any chances?

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  enosant
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  this makes me MAD

  by under74 in

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  i came a cross this article....never heard of it before although i know now there was a primetime live that did a story about them.

  it's sick to know.

  i read more and it made me more angry.. and there are people here in the us that say racism isn't the way it was....idiots.. http://abcnews.go.com/primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1.

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  Dystopia - cool, I've learned a new word!

  Yeah in Europe, especially in the UK, we tend to take a stong view on incitement - its criminalised as hate-speech.

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  enosant
  Un peut de bien ne peut faire de mal - es.67
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  Men and women don't understand eachother

  by ballistic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  'i'm starting to like you too much... i'm gunna try not to speak or see you for a few days' .

  ok, i will post back here any more things i don't understand as time progresses .

  and ladies, feel free to post anything you don't understand that men say, i'm sure we will know what is going on (not)!!

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  Good looking girl? Yeah, a real doll - perfect, petite brunnette down to the cutest accent (she is French)! She's all that! No air and graces though - didn't wear make-up or strong perfume but was a babe like no other! hhmmm ... God I miss her!

  No wasn't the kind of girl who has guys waiting in the wings (I had one like that afterwards - & boy did she make me feel innadequate!), although I could see how other men looked longingly at her and I was confortable with that because we only had eyes for each other. °}{°

  Oh, what do I know! Maybe she was a bit of a monkey and had grabbed another branch before letting go of me! Afterall, the guy she went for was a student in her French class, a drummer in some rock band ...

  Hey, now I am learning to play the guitar! ;-)

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  enosant
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  Wikipedia update

  by jstalin in

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  2. beliefs

  my previous addition to the jehovah's witness wikipedia article was removed, but it has been re-added by someone else, and worded more strongly:.

  * belief that a "great crowd" of jehovah's witnesses is now living that will survive the coming battle of armageddon and have the prospect of living forever on an earthly paradise.

  (revelation 7:9-17) belief that all others (non-jehovah's witnesses) on earth will be killed by jehovah at armageddon, including small children and babies.

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  You guys post and edit articles about JW on Wikipedia? Cool!

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  this makes me MAD

  by under74 in

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  i came a cross this article....never heard of it before although i know now there was a primetime live that did a story about them.

  it's sick to know.

  i read more and it made me more angry.. and there are people here in the us that say racism isn't the way it was....idiots.. http://abcnews.go.com/primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1.

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  Just had a look at their lyrics and its pure propaganda of white supremacy and call to arms! In particular 'Aryan Man Awake', 'Vistory','Weiss Weiss Weiss' (use babelfish to translate) and 'Sacrifice'

  Appreciating your heritage and bringing attention to it is one thing but re-hashing an ideology that the entire world condems and went to war over is quite another.

  How can they be allowed to get away with this?Is this freedom of speech gone mad or is there something more insideous going on here?

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  enosant
  Un peut de bien ne peut faire de mal - es.67