Posts by Borgia

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WORLDS APART: Actors Going in Service

by compound complex in

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the orthodox muslim faith is a constant source of debate in the western world today, and it would be obvious to draw a parallel between saras dilemma and the difficult situation of young muslim girls in a western country like denmark today.

director niels arden oplev has openly stated that this was a parallel he had in mind when he made to verdener.. .

sara goes proselytizing with her father (jens jrn spottag) and younger sister (sarah juel werner).

Borgia

Accepted as long as you do not conduct a talk at a SDA, TDA or DA

Cheers

Borgia

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For the converts: Do you ever feel your life has come full circle?

by truthseeker in

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just a thought for those of you who converted to jwdom.. now that you're out, or in the process of leaving, do you feel that your life has come more or less full circle?.

do you feel that you're back where you started?.

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Borgia

Nope! Not full circle, not crazy iwan, spiral, or whatever.

As far as my situation is now, I consider it profit / loss situation. Over the course of my JW period though I had been a religious dumbhead, from a business point of view I'm not bad off. Maybe I could have been better off if I had used my time better. But that's hypothesizing. I'm afraid my wife will never leave jw-land but have good hope that my kids will.......

When it comes to God. I'm atheist, so I've gone from dependent to independent mindset. That's not even close to a circle. But certainly something of the opposite heading....

Cheers

Borgia

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I asked about the Sept 2007 okm

by Tired of the Hypocrisy in

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i am already getting some answers.

please check it out and respond if you like.. thanks!.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080821034557aahtlyf&r=w.

Borgia

hm....I tried to get back to the page of your question but yahoo said it was deleted. Then I tried it through my profile. But again: answer deleted. Strange.....First it was cut in half, now totally deleted.

Well, you can't win 'm all.....

Cheers

Borgia

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A way to destroy the Watchtower! -- This will really work!

by AlmostAtheist in

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http://www.netdisaster.com/go.php?mode=bomb&destruction=massive&sound=on&url=http://watchtower.org/.

(aw phooey!

the link doesn't work!

Borgia

I liked the demonstrations....

Cheers

Borgia

16

I have forsaken my dedication

by wobble in

i don't think you can, because they are completely fixated with territory maps, hours and doors to knock on (and literature to present).. how many years have jws been active in the uk?

well over a century.. how many hours were spent "preaching" in the uk last year?

must be well over 500,000 hours.. if you were to ask a member of the public what jws believe, now many would you have to ask before anyone mentioned god's kingdom?

Borgia

if post 1985: Yes you have.

If pre-1985: you have not.

It feels good, does it not?

Cheers

Borgia

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I asked about the Sept 2007 okm

by Tired of the Hypocrisy in

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friends

i am already getting some answers.

please check it out and respond if you like.. thanks!.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080821034557aahtlyf&r=w.

Borgia

I wrote a little response with reference to the organisation book, elder manual and other material.

I hop it will be helpful.

Cheers

Borgia

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Less Focus on Doctrine, More Focus on OBEDIENCE.

by easyreader1970 in

i went to the convention this past weekend.

it was a bit different than most conventions i have gone to (all 26 of them).

there was pretty much no doctrine presented at this convention at all.

Borgia

obedient Look up obedient at Dictionary.com
c.1225, from O.Fr. obedient (11c.), from L. obedientem (nom. obediens), prp. of oboedire "to obey" (see obey). Obedience in ref. to dog training is attested from 1930.
obeisance Look up obeisance at Dictionary.com
c.1374, "act or fact of obeying," from O.Fr. obeissance "obedience," from obeissant, prp. of obeir "obey," from L. oboedire (see obey). Sense in Eng. alt. late 14c. to "bending or prostration of the body as a gesture of submission or respect" by confusion with abaisance.

Not much difference is there.........Golden Calf alert!

Cheers

Borgia

51

Do Paul's Letters Really Count?

by almostbitten in

if there is anyone here with some heavy bible knowledge, i would like to throw this nugget up in the air.

in 2 timothy 3:16, paul reminds us that "all scripture is inspired of god and beneficial for teaching...." nwt (because that was the version that was sitting nearby).

my question is: did paul consider the personal letters he wrote to the various churches and to timothy, titus, and philemon as scripture?

Borgia

He was referring to those pieces of scripture Timothy had known since childhood. That would exclude many if not all of the NT books. Check the list in your NWT with bible books and their presumed date of writing against what you think has been Timothy's age when receiving the letter you refert to.

The rest is as they say history.

Cheers

Borgia

6

new light on blood ;-)

by processor in

awaken in gilead wrote on may 26th:.

i like the point that plasma is 90% water.

this means that jws should reject water since it is a component of blood.

Borgia

processor,

I like it. You wrote in a good tradition of that of Erasmus: Praise of Folly.....The first book I read about the follies of religion.....

Cheers

Borgia

32

CO sez...(ladies, cover your eyes)

by sir82 in

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..."i am fully convinced that the devil knew that as his old system of things crumbled, he wouldn't be able to keep people from listening to us.. "so you know what he did?

he got the women out of the house and sent them off to work.. "now when we go door to door, the only ones we find home are the dogs.".

i warned ya!

Borgia

Pantyhose:...What rubbish is that.... stockings

Cheers

Borgia