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  I need some good sriptures & reasoning to refute Jesus = Michael Archangel

  by androb31 in

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  2. beliefs

  i have a lot of good stuff at home on the subject but i'm at work and could use some help for a friend who was just conversing w/ a jw..

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  Borgia

  :For the Lord Himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

  This is the scripture used to "proof" that J=M because of the voice of the Archangel. Well.... if J=m = archangel is really true, literally true as the JW would have it J= the trumpet call.

  Now that's an interesting artful approach. Jesus the trumpet. ....In trumpets name ....Or michaels name ... or perhaps: In trumpet michaels name....Jesus...

  Cheers

  Borgia
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  Serious Omissions in New Watchtower Book

  by metatron in

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  2. friends

  the society's latest book, "bearing thorough witness about god's kingdom" contains two serious omissions.. first, on page 105, it offers an outright lie about the organization and the bible.

  "they do not force the scriptures to fit their views.

  impartial observers have recognized this fact.

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  Metatron,

  Thanks for the headsup. It sure is an old song they are singing as long as there's somebody with some repute saying sometihng nice about something they've done ...

  OTWO: I believe that particular quote had to do with earthquackes. It's somewhere on the site here.

  Cheers

  Borgia
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  Remember Jehovah in the Days of Your Youth REDUX

  by Farkel in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  "remember jehovah in the days of your youth".

  this was a list of my experiences as a young dub that i penned about a dozen years ago.. it was based on the theme in the watchtower article referenced below that i remember reading all that many years ago.. *** w71 6/15 367 remembering your creator in the days of your young manhood ***.

  12:1.. the sole purpose of the article was to convince young people to dedicate their younger years to preaching for the watchtower bible and tract society and practicing their policies and doctrines at all times.. many people who become jws as adults, and later leave, have at least some "normal" remembrances of a "traditional" childhood.

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  Borgia

  I am glad I was not raised in the US while being raised as a JW. Double Jeopardy....

  Cheers

  Borgia
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  Circuit Oversear for dinner..."sorry no time to talk" remember this! Like Jesus is coming!

  by Witness 007 in

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  a sister rang and left a message to see how we are....but i called back the next day and she said...."oh sorry i have no time to talk, the circuit oversear is coming for dinner, can you call back?

  " this reminds me of c.o dinners it's a major suck up...like jesus and his apostles are coming for dinner.

  the pioneers like this sister always get the c.o to come over.. anyone had the pleasure?.

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  Borgia

  I used to divide the CO and DO in two groups. Those who would accept a desert and those who would not. Proco's and antco's, Prodo's and antdo's. Most CO/DO i knew were of the antco/ antdo class.

  We had the CO over for dinner on a friday once..... but friday is our fat mouth day: so french fried, kroketten and frikandellen.....and icecream.

  their response: we like it! Can we come next time?

  Cheers

  Borgia
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  Yahoo Answers - JWs only

  by Rocky_Girl in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090304222718aadn4z9.

  this girl isn't a witness, but is asking them for advice about joining a sorority.

  how long will it take them to get her out of college?

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  Borgia

  Why not ask dr Phil?

  Cheers

  Borgia
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  North of North: King of Darkness

  by cameo-d in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  quote paraphrased from their own literature:.

  "a lodge has 3 symbolic lesser lights--east, west, and south.. there is no light in the north.".

  because "solomon's temple was placed so far north of the ecliptic that the sun and moon at their meridian height coulddart no rays into the northern part thereof.".

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  Borgia

  I'm sure the masonics on the southern heisphere see that in a different light.....

  Cheers

  Borgia
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  APOSTATES LIE !!!

  by elder-schmelder in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  all i have ever head my whole life at meetings is that apostates are full of lies.. about 1 year ago i started checking into the lie.

  all i can find is quote's from watchtowers and other books.. .

  my question is "what is the lie that apostates are telling?".

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  Borgia

  that would be a long tist then......much longer than those 96 statements Luther once produced........should be looking into font size and stuff

  Cheers

  Borgia
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  Wouldn't HELL be a great Party compared to Witness Paradise?

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. experiences

  all the party animals would be there...all the pornstars, slutty women {and men} drinking, drugs...nightclubs!

  gambling!

  all the celebrities are there, brittney spears, and hubby stealer angelina jolie {brad pitt} compared to witness paradise this sounds like fun!.

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  Borgia

  Udo Jürgens, the famous Austrian schlager singer once wrote a song about it: Lieve GRüße aus ger Hölle (cheerio from hell)

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOXhaviQ6Ps

  Sie sitzen um das Feuer they sit around the fire
  im Grandhotel "zur Hölle", in GRand Hotel: in Hell
  tausend Meilen 1000 miles
  unterm Meeresgrund: below the bottom of the sea
  Champagner wird getrunken, champaign is being drunk
  es feiern die Halunken, the scoundrels are having a feast
  Betrüger und so mancher doublecrosser and so many
  Schweinehund: SOB
  Der Waffenlieferant, the armsdealer
  der Bodenspekulant, the realestate speculator
  und auch ein Kardinal. and a Cardinal also
  Ein Glas in jeder Hand, a glas in both hands
  verwähnt von scharfen Frauen spoiled by hot women
  und bis zum Hals in Geld, swimming in money
  sie schicken eine Message they are sending a message
  an die Welt: to the world
  
  Schöne Grüße aus der Hölle, cheerio from hell
  hier geht es ab, here you go down
  ihr glaubt es kaum! you'll hardly believe it
  Hier ist nix mit Einzelzelle, solitary confinement is a nono
  hier steppt der Bär, (literally: the bear is tapdancing) you'll get the picture)
  es ist ein Traum! it's a dream!
  Schöne Grüße aus der Hölle, cheerio from hell
  und wenn ihr recht schön and when you are nice and stupid
  dämlich seid,
  dann übt ihr alle weiterhin you go on practicing
  treu' und Redlichkeit! faithfulness and integrity
  
  Die Milliardenschieber those pushing bilions
  und ihre Rechtsverbieger and their benders of the law
  zieh'n sich grinsend they smoke with a grin
  die Havannas rein. havannas
  Sie zeigen sich die ganzen They show complete
  gemogelten Bilanzen cooked books
  und kriegen sich vor Lachen ROFFL &
  nicht mehr ein. LMAO
  Party bei Tag und Nacht, Partying day and night
  und das in Saus und Braus, living off the hog
  und blonde Luder zieh'n and the blond bitches take off
  nicht nur die Bluse aus, not only their blouses
  so haben's alle gern, All very much like it so
  vom Immobilienhai from real estate shark
  bis zum Bos der Sittenpolizei... to the boss of the vice squad
  
  Schöne Grüße aus der Hölle
  (weiter wie oben)
  La, la, la...
  
  Der Laden, der ist rappelvoll, The joint is jam-packed
  es boomt die Schweinerei, rascalty is booming
  und am Himmel hängt ein Schild: and in the sky hangs a signboard
  "Hier sind ncoh Zimmer frei!" Vacant Rooms
  
  Schöne Grüße aus der Hölle
  (weiter wie oben)
  La, la, la...

  You decide what's getting your grear on: patting some lion on the back or some slutty blonde....

  Cheers

  Borgia
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  APOSTATES LIE !!!

  by elder-schmelder in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  all i have ever head my whole life at meetings is that apostates are full of lies.. about 1 year ago i started checking into the lie.

  all i can find is quote's from watchtowers and other books.. .

  my question is "what is the lie that apostates are telling?".

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  Borgia

  Elder-schmelder....you have answered your own question.

  If apostates lie according to the WBTS and they only repeat what the WBTS has said, it means the WBTS is apostate...for they lie....

  Cheers

  Borgia
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  I can't take this pain anymore...my life at dead end

  by JustHuman14 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my life has reached to a dead end...i'm stuck and there is no way out.

  i was inactive for 6 years and i'm disfellowshiped for the past 3. i would never think that my life would have been in this terrible mess.. .

  i wasn't planned to be disfellowshiped by my "wife" turned me in to the elders for apostasy 2 times!!!

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  I will go and stay alone, invite the friends I want, start playing my guitar again, traveling and doing things that please me. By staying there it will not do any good, either for me or my children. I do spend time with them and I'm trying to give them the correct attitude of life, but most of all to show them Jesus. So by staying there it will not help at all since the brainwashed 'wife' will do anything to follow WT's commandments.

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  Justhuman,

  I think you are on the right track here. Life with a JW spouse is not easy. A hell when the JW party line is being towed. (((Justhuman)))

  Cheers

  Borgia