Posts by Borgia

funny, is it not? I guess that publishing these kind of thoughts now....would infuriourate the ME tremendously and the publisher would be struck by a fatwa. (see danish comics about mohammed)

Cheers

Borgia

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Daniel 4 and the 7 times.

by Borgia in

for all of you who are interest here is a link to john a browns even tide.

john aquila brown author of even tide.

cheers .

Borgia

You can download the pdf. check page 157 of the pdf. There is an interesting chart there followed by JA browns .....book?/tract? or written appendix.

Cheers

Borgia

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Daniel 4 and the 7 times.

by Borgia in

for all of you who are interest here is a link to john a browns even tide.

john aquila brown author of even tide.

cheers .

Borgia

For all of you who are interest here is a link to John A Browns Even Tide.

John Aquila Brown author of Even Tide

Cheers

Borgia

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April 1st 2007 WT pounds 1918/1919!

by cultswatter in

as if the poor dubs did not know already that jesus approved of the wts in 1919 sheesh!!!!.

this magazine is relentless though - it pounds the 1918/19 dates over and over.

both study articles are promo pieces for the fds theoarchy.

1935: The League returns the Saar to Germany March 1
Adolf Hitler denounces Versailles Treaty clauses providing for German disarmament, Germany reestablishes military service in violation of the treaty, Hitler creates the Lüftwaffe to give Germany a military air capability
The U.S. Army Air Corps has its beginnings in the General Headquarters Air Force established at Langley Field, Va., March 1 under the command of Nashville, Tenn.-born Brig. Gen. Frank Maxwell Andrews, 51
Italian troops invade Ethiopia October 3
Italian troops invade Ethiopia October 3
A Philippines constitution gains approval March 23 from President Roosevelt, who appoints Gen. Douglas MacArthur governor of the Philippines
Mexican women organized the United Front for the Rights of Woman
The Nuremberg Laws enacted by the Nazi Party Congress meeting at Nuremberg September 15 deprive Jews of German citizenship, forbid intermarriage with Jews, and make intercourse between "Aryans" and Jews punishable by death to prevent "racial pollution."
The French Line passenger ship S.S. Normandie arrives at New York June 3 after crossing from Southampton in a record 4 days, 11 hours, 42 minutes, averaging 29.6 knots per hour,
Moscow's Metropol subway opens in May with 5½ miles of track
The world's first parking meter wins approval from Oklahoma City officials in May and is installed on the corner of First and Robinson streets
Nylon is developed by E. I. du Pont chemist Wallace H. Carothers
University of Chicago physicist Arthur Dempster discovers uranium 235 isotope, a fissile version of the atom
Alcoholics Anonymous has its beginnings June 10 at New York
British inventor A. Edwin Stevens produces the first wearable electronic hearing aid and founds a company that he calls Amplivox to produce the 2½-pound device
German inventor Willy Müller devises the world's first automatic telephone answering machine. His three-foot-tall instrument finds a market among Orthodox Jews whose strict observance prevents them from picking up a phone on the Sabbath
And of course some famous movies like:
Sam Wood's A Night at the Opera with the Marx Brothers
Alfred Hitchcock's The 39 Steps with Robert Donat
Leni Riefenstahl's propaganda documentary Triumph of the Will

some sad news to:
Federal agents kill Kate "Ma" Barker

But here comes the real shocker of all:
The Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum revolver introduced April 8 can be ordered with barrels ranging from 3½ to 8 3/8 inches in length and with the longest barrel fires a 158-grain semiwadcutter bullet at 1,515 feet per second
No need to argue that we really really live in the time of the end.
Cheers and goodnight
Borgia

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New World Translation on Jeporady

by moomanchu in

is this true, e-mail i got from mom, sounds like bs to me.. recently on jeopardy on tv...one of the questions was.....what is.

>the most accurate translation of the holy scriptures??

no one got the>correct answer, so alex trebek said "new world translation of the holy>scriptures, printed by watchtower bible tract society.... ]>this following is worth reading!

Borgia

Here's the thread

www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/133542/1.ashx">

Cheers

Borgia

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Will the WTS ever show a decrease in publishers?

by cultswatter in

the world wide jw publishers increased by only 1.6% in recent years, so it is only a matter of time until the wts will have to start showing a decrease in publishers.

here are some reasons why.

1. many young jw are 'rebellng' against wts authority and are becoming just like mini satans according to a recent wt article.

Borgia

Yes,

You may see this particular feature on a local (country) level. Just check the KM on the cd-rom. For a particular country I found the period 1995/2003 to show 5400 babtized but no increase, meaning 5400 quiters Plus a significant group of slackers(6%). This shows great potential for further growth......in decrease.

When I checked the KM of the 70, the reports showed a country target of publishers. Before 75 it showed a target less than the actual publishers. Asof 75 they showed a target higher than the actual number. After 75 the deviation between target and actual became more and more apparent, so they quit with this. It is very interesting to see a number of 30.000 publishers in 75 and 30 years later, not a single digit has changed.

Except for the number of babtized of course........and that went away.......

Cheers

Borgia

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Our Watchtower Study On obedience & submission

by dark angle in

yesterday we have a study of the watchtower about obedience and submission.

this study arose a lot of questions and heightened emotions in me and the interested retired judge sitting besides me.

we came accross the 9th pharagraph, page 28 of the april 1, 2007, where it says that: "it is easy to obey when everything is clear and we agree, but we will show that we are trully submissive if we yeild even when we do not personally understand the direction provided.

Borgia

It seems apropriate to now to quote Freddy Franz on this matter. Although his intention was different, for he wanted to show that a GB did not exist, the same argument goes for any self proclaimed and imposed agency, especially for WTBS appointed men (talk of september 7th 1975 Gilead graduation):

....and then all of a sudden as he {Paul} was serving in Antioch, in Syria, not in Israel but in Syria, why God's spirit spoke to that congregation there in Antioch, and said: "now of all things you set aside, YOU, this congregation in Antioch, you set aside these two men, Barnabas and Saul for the work I have commissioned them". And so the Antioch congregation did that and laid their hands upon Paul (or Saul) and Barnabas and send them forth...and they wnet forth through the holy spirit operating through the Antioch congregation and they went out on their first missionary assignment. So, you see, the Lord Jesus Christ acting as the Head of the congregation and taking action directly without consulting anybody here on earth what he could do and what he could not do ...................

......and where did they go, where did they report?there's the record, you read it for yourself in the closing verses of the fourteenth chapter of Acts. they went back to ANTIOCH, to the congregation there, and the account says that they related things in detail to them; to this congregation that had committed them to the undeserved kindness of God for the work they had performed. So, there's where they reported.
So the record also says they stayed in Antioch not for a little time. Now what happened? All of a sudden something occured and Paul and Barnabas, they go up to Jerusalem. Well, what's the matter? What brings them up to Jerusalem? Well, it's the body of apostles and of other elders of the Jerusalem congregation that summoned them up there and say: "Look here! We have heard that you two men have gone out on a missionary tour and finished it and haven't come up here to Jerusalem to report to us. DO YOU KNOW WHO WE ARE? We are the council of Jerusalem. DON'T YOU RECOGNIZE THE HEADSHIP OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST? if you don't get up here in a hurry, we are going to take disciplinary action against you"!

(and now: bring it home Freddy)

Is that what the account says? Well, if they had acted that way toward Paul and Barnabas because they had reported to the congregation by means of which the holy spirit sent them out, then this council of apostles at Jerusalem and other elders of the Jewish congregation would have put themselves above the headship of the Lord Jesus Christ.......

Although he was clear on this point, he did not follow logically the line of thought through. And on the same basis, the whole WBTS mandatory org structure is placing themselves above the headship of the Lord.... This particular piece still makes me smile!

Notice how easy it was in them days to say: the spirit says I should do this that and the other and let's go! How different a spirit from that WT study article....

Cheers

Borgia

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Circuit & District Overseers are lazy, busybodies, and shouldn't eat!

by lawrence in

paul wrote to the thessalonians about people who congregations shouldn't feed (not even leftovers) - let the nasty bums, and their uppity nasty wives starve..... for even when we were with you, we commanded you this: "if anyone will not work, neither let him eat.

" 3:11for we hear of some who walk among you in rebellion, who don't work at all, but are busybodies.

3:12now those who are that way, we command and exhort in the lord jesus christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread..

Borgia

I just received an email from a friend who is told by the CO to stop wallclimbing (approx 60 - 90 foot high)(toperope, secured) for if he does not stop this extreme sport he will be discarded as an MS.

Really: busy with business not of their own. Hanging around with nothing to do......

I second that they should not eat as well.....No CO in my kitchen anymore!

Cheers

Borgia

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Database of WT literature???

by DeViL DriVeR 76 in

is there an online database of wtb&ts publications?

i'm trying to get 1991 "awake!

"/sept 8th, page10 as well as the 1934 yearbook pages 134-138. i know that there are plenty of "apostate" sites quoting whats was written but i need actual hard proof like photocopies or a link with this info from the society itself.

Borgia

I've got a copy of the yearbook 1934 pages 128 - 138.

I can send it over yo you if you wish.

Cheers

Borgia