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VHS of Elder lying in court...need help getting on net
by alamb ini have the video, finally, of the city overseer perjuring himself.
in it, he denies wt publications, refuses to read wt articles and quotes claiming they come from "apostate" websites, etc.
it is about 10 minutes long.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear 02-19-06 WT (Jan. 15, 2006)(DEVIL)
by jgnat indo not allow place for the devil .
allow no place for the devil .
"slandering" the wts?
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Full text of article (Watchtower 01/15/06 pages 21-25):
DO NOT ALLOW PLACE FOR THE DEVIL
"Do not give the Devil a chance. "-EPHESIANS 4:27, Byington.
FOR centuries, many people thought of the Devil as a horned, cloven-hoofed creature clad in red and using a pitchfork to cast wicked humans into a fiery hell. The Bible does not support that idea. Undoubtedly, however, such misconceptions have caused millions to question the existence of the Devil or to think that the term applies only to a principle of evil.
2 The Bible provides eye witness evidence and clear testimony that the Devil exists. Jesus Christ saw him in the heavenly spirit realm and spoke to him on the earth. (Job 1:6; Matthew 4:4-11) Although the Scriptures do not reveal this spirit creature's original name, they call him the Devil (meaning "Slanderer") because he has slandered God. He is also called Satan (meaning "Resister"), since he resists Jehovah. Satan the Devil is referred to as "the original serpent," apparently because he used a serpent to deceive Eve. (Revelation 12:9; 1 Timothy 2:14) He is also known as "the wicked one."-Matthew 6:13.* (Footnote: *See the cover series "Is the Devil Real?" in The Watchtower of November 15, 2005.)
3 As Jehovah's servants, in no way do we want to resemble Satan, the archenemy of the only true God. We must therefore heed the apostle Paul's counsel: "Do not give the Devil a chance." (Ephesians 4:27, Byington) What, then, are some of Satan's traits that we must not imitate?
Do Not Imitate the Great Slanderer
4 "The wicked one" deserves to be called the Devil, for he is a slanderer. Slander is a false, malicious, and defamatory statement about someone. God commanded Adam: "As for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die." (Genesis 2:17) Eve had been informed of this, but through a serpent, the Devil told her: "You positively will not die. For God knows that in the very day of your eating from it your eyes are bound to be opened and you are bound to be like God, knowing good and bad." (Genesis 3:4, 5) That was malicious slander against Jehovah God!
5 The Israelites were commanded: "You must not go around among your people for the sake of slandering." (Leviticus 19:16) The apostle John stated concerning a slanderer in his day: "I wrote something to the congregation, but Diotrephes, who likes to have the first place among them, does not receive anything from us with respect. That is why, if I come, I will call to remembrance his works which he goes on doing, chattering about us with wicked words." (3 John 9, 10) Diotrephes was slandering John and deserved to be called to account for it. What loyal Christian would want to be like Diotrephes and imitate Satan, the great slanderer?
6 Slanderous statements and false accusations are often hurled against Jehovah's servants. "The chief priests and the scribes kept standing up and vehemently accusing [Jesus]." (Luke 23:10) Paul was falsely accused by High Priest Ananias and others. (Acts 24: 1-8) And the Bible speaks of Satan as "the accuser of our brothers ..., who accuses them day and night before our God." (Revelation 12:10) Those falsely accused brothers are the anointed Christians on earth in these last days.
7 No Christian would want to slander anyone or make false accusations. Yet, that could happen if we did not have all the facts before bearing witness against someone. Under the Mosaic Law, deliberately testifying falsely could result in death for the accuser. (Exodus 20:16; Deuteronomy 19:15-19) Moreover, things detestable to Jehovah include "a false witness that launches forth lies." (Proverbs 6:16-19) Surely, then, we want to avoid imitating the principal slanderer and false accuser.
Shun the Ways of the Original Manslayer
8 The Devil is a manslayer. "That one was a manslayer when he began," said Jesus. (John 8:44) Beginning with his first act in turning Adam and Eve away from God, Satan has been a manslayer. He brought death upon the first human pair and their offspring. (Romans 5:12) It may be noted that this action can be attributed only to a person, not to a mere principle of evil.
9 "You must not murder," states one of the Ten Commandments given to Israel. (Deuteronomy 5:17) Addressing Christians, the apostle Peter wrote: "Let none of you suffer as a murderer." (1 Peter 4:15) So as Jehovah's servants, we would not commit murder. Yet, we would bear guilt before God if we hated a fellow Christian and wished him dead. "Everyone who hates his brother is a manslayer [or, "murderer"]," wrote the apostle John, "and you know that no manslayer has everlasting life remaining in him." (1 John 3: 15; New International Version) The Israelites were commanded: "You must not hate your brother in your heart." (Leviticus 19:17) May we be quick to resolve any problem that arises between us and a fellow believer, so that the manslayer Satan does not destroy our Christian unity.-Luke 17:3, 4.
Stand Firm Against the Chief Liar
10 The Devil is a liar. "When he speaks the lie," said Jesus, "he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie." (John 8:44) Satan lied to Eve, whereas Jesus came into the world to bear witness to the truth. (John 18:37) If we are to stand firm against the Devil as followers of Christ, we cannot resort to lies and deception. We must "speak truthfully." (Zechariah 8:16; Ephesians 4:25) "Jehovah the God of truth" blesses only his truthful Witnesses. The wicked have no right to represent him. -Psalm 31:5; 50:16; Isaiah 43:10.
Blurb on page 23: We will never allow the Devil to destroy our Christian unity
11 If we cherish our spiritual freedom from satanic lies, we will cling to Christianity, "the way of the truth." (2 Peter 2:2; John 8:32) The whole body of Christian teachings constitutes "the truth of the good news." (Galatians 2:5, 14) Our very salvation depends on our "walking in the truth"--adhering to it and standing firm against "the father of the lie."-3 John 3, 4, 8.
Resist the Foremost Apostate
12 The spirit creature who became the Devil was once in the truth. But "he did not stand fast in the truth," said Jesus, "because truth is not in him." (John 8:44) This foremost apostate has pursued a relentless course of resistance to "the God of truth." Some firstcentury Christians fell into "the snare of the Devil," apparently becoming his victims because of being misled and deviating from the truth. So Paul urged his coworker Timothy to instruct them with mildness so that they might recover spiritually and get free from Satan's snare. (2 Timothy 2:23-26) Of course, it is much better to cling firmly to the truth and not be ensnared by apostate views in the first place.
13 Because of listening to the Devil and not rejecting his lies, the first human pair apostatized. So, then, should we listen to apostates, read their literature, or examine their Web sites on the Internet? If we love God and the truth, we will not do so. We should not allow apostates into our homes or even greet them, for such actions would make us 'sharers in their wicked works.' (2 John 9-11) May we never succumb to the Devil's wiles by abandoning the Christian "path of truth" to follow false teachers who seek to "introduce ruinous ideologies" and try to `exploit us with well-turned phrases.'-2 Peter 2:1-3, Byington.
14 Paul told Christian elders from Ephesus: "Pay attention to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the holy spirit has appointed you overseers, to shepherd the congregation of God, which he purchased with the blood of his own Son. I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among you and will not treat the flock with tenderness, and from among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves." (Acts 20:28-30) In time, such apostates did arise and "speak twisted things."
15 In about 65 C.E., the apostle urged Timothy to `handle the word of the truth aright.' "But," wrote Paul, "shun empty speeches that violate what is holy; for they will advance to more and more ungodliness, and their word will spread like gangrene. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of that number. These very men have deviated from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already occurred; and they are subverting the faith of some." Apostasy had begun! "For all that," added Paul, "the solid foundation of God stays standing."-2 Timothy 2:15-19.
16 Satan has often used apostates in an effort to corrupt true worship-but to no avail. About the year 1868, Charles Taze Russell began a careful examination of long-accepted doctrines of Christendom's churches and found misinterpretations of the Scriptures. Russell and a few other truth-seekers formed a Bible study class in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A. In the nearly 140 years since then, Jehovah's servants have grown in knowledge and love of God and his Word. Despite the wiles of the foremost apostate, the spiritual vigilance of the faithful and discreet slave class has helped these true Christians to remain loyal to Jehovah and his Word.-Matthew 24:45.
Never Let the World's Ruler Get a Hold on You
17 Another way that Satan seeks to ensnare us is by inducing us to love this world -unrighteous human society alienated from God. Jesus called the Devil "the ruler of the world" and said: "He has no hold on me." (John 14:30) May Satan never get a hold on us! We realize, of course, that "the whole world is lying in the power of [that] wicked one." (1 John 5:19) So the Devil could offer Jesus "all the kingdoms of the world" for one apostate act of worship-something unequivocally rejected by God's Son. (Matthew 4:810) The world ruled by Satan hates Christ's followers. (John 15:18-21) No wonder the apostle John warned us not to love the world!
Blurb on page 24: Why did John urge us not to love the world?
18 John wrote: "Do not be loving either the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him; because everything in the world-the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of one's means of life-does not originate with the Father, but originates with the world. Furthermore, the world is passing away and so is its desire, but he that does the will of God remains forever." (1 John 2:15-17) We must not love the world, for its way of life appeals to the sinful flesh and is diametrically opposed to Jehovah God's standards.
19 What if love of this world exists in our heart? Then let us pray for God's help to overcome this love and the fleshly desires associated with it. (Galatians 5:16-21) Surely we will strive to keep ourselves "without spot from the world" if we bear in mind that "wicked spirit forces" are the invisible "world rulers" over unrighteous human society.-James 1:27; Ephesians 6:11, 12; 2 Corinthians 4:4.
20 Regarding his disciples, Jesus said: "They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world." (John 17:16) Anointed Christians and their dedicated companions strive to keep morally and spiritually clean, separate from this world. (John 15:19; 17:14; James 4:4) This unrighteous world hates us because we keep separate from it and are `preachers of righteousness.' (2 Peter 2:5) True, we live in the midst of human society, which includes fornicators, adulterers, extortioners, idolaters, thieves, liars, and drunkards. (1 Corinthians 5:9-11; 6:9-11; Revelation 21:8) But we do not breathe in "the spirit of the world," for we are not driven by this sinful motivating force.-1 Corinthians 2:12.
Allow No Place for the Devil
21 Instead of being motivated by "the spirit of the world," we are led by God's spirit, which produces in us such qualities as love and self-control. (Galatians 5:22, 23) These assist us in withstanding the Devil's assaults on our faith. He wants us to become "heated up only to do evil," but God's spirit helps us to "let anger alone and leave rage." (Psalm 37:8) True, we may at times become justifiably angry, but Paul counsels us: "Be wrathful, and yet do not sin; let the sun not set with you in a provoked state, neither allow place for the Devil."-Ephesians 4: 26, 27.
22 Our anger could result in sin if we remained in a provoked state. Our having this frame of mind would give the Devil a chance to promote discord in the congregation or incite us to engage in evil deeds. Hence, we need quickly to settle differences with others in a godly way. (Leviticus 19:17,18; Matthew 5:23, 24; 18:15, 16) Let us, therefore, be guided by God's spirit, exercising self-control and never letting even justifiable anger degenerate into bitterness, malice, and hatred.
23 We have discussed certain traits of the Devil that we should not imitate. But some readers may wonder: Should we fear Satan? Why does he foment the persecution of Christians? And how can we avoid being overreached by the Devil?
What Is Your Reply?
- Why should we never slander anyone?
- In keeping with 1 John 3:15, how can we avoid being manslayers?
- How should we view apostates, and why?
- Why should we not love the world?Questions
1. Why have many questioned the existence of the Devil?
2. What are some Scriptural facts about the Devil?
3. We will consider what question?
4. How did "the wicked one" slander God?
5. Why did Diotrephes deserve to be called to account for slandering?
6, 7. Why would we want to avoid slandering anyone?
8. In what way was the Devil "a manslayer when he began"?
9. As indicated at 1 John 3:15, how can we become manslayers?
10, 11. What must we do in order to stand firm against the chief liar, Satan?
12, 13. How should we treat apostates?
14, 15. What warning did Paul give elders from Ephesus and his coworker Timothy?
16. Despite the wiles of the foremost apostate, why have we been loyal to God and his Word?
17-19. What is the world that is lying in the Devil's power, and why should we not love it?
20. Why can it be said that we are "no part of the world"?
21, 22. How can you apply Paul's counsel recorded at Ephesians 4:26, 27?
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SURVIVAL INTO A NEW EARTH Quote - what was it and where is it?
by VM44 injust a few days ago someone posted here a very good quote from the 1984 survival into a new earth book.
it contained a statement that was just flat out wrong.
i remembered thinking that it was a very good quote to have for reference.. of course, now i can't find the thread, and can't remember the quote!!!!.
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Please give some of the context of the quote please.
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Last Call for EMAIL DRIVE
by Severus inthis is a last call for email addresses you would like the ap blood news release sent to.
all details are here:.
email drive for ap blood news.
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This is a last call for email addresses you would like the AP Blood news release sent to. All details are here:
I want to personally thank you for your participation. We have continued to receive regular messages with addresses, some with very dear and touching comments.
The response we have received tells us that this form of activism works!
The final mailing will happen sometime next week, so please email to [email protected] as soon as possible.
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Charles Taze Russell Wants to be Your Friend!
by professor inif you are on myspace, please take a moment to add pastor russell to your friends list!.
if you're not on myspace, best to stay off....way too addicting!.
http://www.myspace.com/charlestazerussell
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The replies from Gordon Hinckley and Joseph Smith are priceless.
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"WHERE ELSE WOULD WE GO?"
by bonnzo ini have a rather lengthy question/statement, so please bear with me.
i would like to apologize in advance if i offend anyone with this post.
i dont mean to judge anyone here.
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There is no WHERE to go to. It is "WHOM shall we go away to."
If you believe in Jesus, that is the WHOM.
Why are you letting the "faithful and discreet slave" get in the way of this?
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Martin's Method of Giving a Testimony to JWs: Would this really work?
by Oroborus21 inok so i read in walter martin's the kingdom of the cults how he claims to use the following method to give a testimony to jehovah's witnesses who come to his door periodically, and frankly i find it a bit dubious, despite his claims that he has successfully done it many times.
he calls this method "subliminal seeding" (pg.
487-8) [a dubious title already]:.
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JWs are directed not to let the householder pray for them:
Reasoning page 295:
If Someone Says—‘Pray with me first, then give me your message’
You might reply: ‘I’m glad to know that you are a person who appreciates the importance of prayer. Jehovah’s Witnesses also pray regularly. But there is something that Jesus said about when and how to pray that may be new to you. Did you know that he told his disciples not to offer public prayers with a view to having others see that they were devout, praying persons? . . . (Matt. 6:5)’ Then perhaps add: ‘Notice what he went on to say should be of primary concern to us and what we should put first in our prayers. That is what I have come to share with you. (Matt. 6:9, 10)’
Or you could say: ‘I know that representatives from some religious groups do that. But Jehovah’s Witnesses do not, because Jesus instructed his disciples to go about their work of preaching in another manner. Instead of saying, "When you enter a house, first pray," notice what he said, as found here at Matthew 10:12, 13. . . . And see here in verse 7 what they were to talk about. . . . How can that Kingdom help people like you and me? (Rev. 21:4)’
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Jehovah's INEFFECTIVE Witness...(Why no TV ministry???)
by Terry inwhat if i asserted the following as true?
the watchtower bible and tract society has no interest in an effective evangelical program of conversion.. would that sound silly?
disfellowshipping would lead to having a big target placed on the ex jw's back at armageddon.. .
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Publicity has served the corporate purpose when they can frame that publicity as Kingdom Work. Publicity of a different nature could destroy them!
Spot on!
The "ministry" is an insular activity for JWs alone - it is not a recruiting technique.
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Their "BIG" news 'KNOCKING' documentary
by DannyHaszard inknocking documentary newsletter #1 summer 2005. .
witnesses.
stories of real families to humanize jehovah's witnesses.
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Let's call a spade "a spade." Knocking is a pro-JW piece and any research into production will prove it.
It is important that PBS and other media outlets know that. Then let them make the decision whether they will broadcast cult-recruiter movies.
Would any network knowingly broadcast a movie promoting a damaging cult? I think not.
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get a list of kh's sold to churches?
by carla incould we get a list going of kh's sold to churches or religious affiliated?
the thread (which i can't find at the moment) about painters not taking jobs painting churches got me thinking of this.
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Remember that news story about a terrorist cell in Lodi, California? The mosque there used to be a Kingdom Hall as well.
In the years since, Shah has obtained visas for enough family members to fill 20 households. He co-founded Lodi's only mosque, a pale yellow former Jehovah's Witness Kingdom Hall of clapboard and stucco near a city park on the southeast side of town.
