AuldSoul

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  I have a super secret prank for tomorrow's convention

  by ColdRedRain in

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  i got dragged to the convention with my folks again because i got a court order stating i have to be with my mother at all times.

  so tomorrow, i'm playing a prank.

  only a few people on this board know what that prank is.

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  AuldSoul

  I wonder if a small vial of paper consuming acid would be objectionable ...
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  Are Jehovah's Witnesses simply 'Peddlars of the Word'?

  by Gill in

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  'advertise, advertise, advertise the kingdom!

  ' was the rallying cry for generations of jws who readily sold the wares of the wtbts.. tax laws changed and the slaves had to give their mags away freely or for a voluntary donation but still had to pay for the watchtower wares.. so, are jehovah's witnesses simply 'peddlars of the word'?.

  what with the regular 'sales meetings', and the necessity of recording and reporting sales made, i would suggest that they are.

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  Watchtower May 1, 2002, p. 12, par. 14 Meeting Divine Requirements Magnifies Jehovah
  It is voluntary; we never charge for any part of our ministry [even though we did do so for over 75 years]. No, “we are not peddlers of the word of God” [anymore]. (2 Corinthians 2:17)

  Brackets? What brackets? I didn't stick different dates in than Grayson used, did I? OHHH! You mean where I corrected what seemed to be a deceptive self-aggrandizement about the nature of the organization into a more closely factual representation of it? I figured the factual candor would make the organization much more appealing to honest-hearted ones.

  Yes, they are and always have been peddlers of the word of God. So is everyone who is trying to sell an idea about the way the Bible should be understood.

  Respectfully,
  AuldSoul
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  Anyone in for chess?

  by DeusMauzzim in

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  come on, all you intellectuals .

  - deus mauzzim.

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  pQ4
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  Are JWDers helpful to each other?

  by AuldSoul in

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  i used to think that this place was a good spot to recommend for exiting jws.

  in some wasy, it still is.

  but if they want to test the waters of doctrinal evaluation i believe it is nearly impossible.

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  HS,

  Don't you think this statement a trifle arrogant Auld Soul?

  Not when the stated purpose of the thread was to gather more information on the thread topic, HS. No, it isn't arrogant. I do think the behavior I described (and which is borne out on the thread in question) was arrogant in the extreme.

  The reality is that regarding WTS issues, all that needs to be said, analysed, uncovered has been debated and discussed here before...

  I am certain this is true, and I also wish there was a working search function for the forum. I think it would be valuable beyond measure for lurkers. As it is, there is not a search function that works.

  I am sure even your perpectives on 'grace' and 'forgiveness' have been discussed before.

  Quite probable. However, my purpose was not to preach to the forum about grace and forgiveness. My purpose was to collect Scriptural and Christian viewpoints on the topic for the benefit of the person who asked me to post the topic. I felt certain that Christians would not be put off by my approach in the least. I used the thread topic to flag that the thread was specifically directed to those who would not take offense or try to muck up the thread with arguments and their noisy and loosely logical pet theroies about everything when I was only trying to collect specific information.

  Terry refused to respect clearly and respectfully communicated boundaries.

  Respectfully,
  AuldSoul
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  Are JWDers helpful to each other?

  by AuldSoul in

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  i used to think that this place was a good spot to recommend for exiting jws.

  in some wasy, it still is.

  but if they want to test the waters of doctrinal evaluation i believe it is nearly impossible.

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  AuldSoul

  Odrade,

  This place helped ME to, many posters here were helpful, but I wonder how many have been left to the "known" of the bOrg because their skin wasn't thick enough to handle our "unknown"?

  I am a first class a-hole in the sense that I really don't care what others think about me or my opinions. Some here would believe differently, but that is only because they don't know me in real life. When it comes to people interfering in the respectful healing processes of others for the purpose of scoring one over someone else or over a hated or disrespected belief system, that is going to get me heated in a hurry.

  Odrade, in the example you posted UnDisfellowshipped didn't ask for any kind of specific consideration from the forum for his/her thread and was plainly preaching a message to the entire forum. S/he wasn't seeking any information, and certainly not any information of a specific type. In the case of my thread, I asked for both specific consideration and specific information.

  If Farkel had posted similarly on my thread I would have responded similarly to the way I responded to Terry, while I can't fault any of the responses Undisfellowshipped got. Terry's addition to my thread was completely without regard for basic respect due another human.

  Respectfully,
  AuldSoul
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  For Christians: Grace vs. Forgiveness

  by AuldSoul in

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  i have been trying to sort this out scripturally, and would like to get input from christians on how these two concepts differ and/or overlap.

  please be liberal with scriptures to support statements.

  i think there may be others who are trying to figure this out for themselves, too.

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  RAF,

  Thank you so much for sharing that.

  I agree completely that Christianity is about spirituality and not religion. I agree completely that the religious and religion tends to focus on the wrong things, the behaviors, the actions, the outward show of it.

  I also agree that maturity (spiritual or otherwise) always requires growth through experience. EVERYONE had to go through a growth process, but it seems to be human nature to forget that we weren't always as mature as we are right now and that can allow us to look down on and belittle those who aren't as mature as we think we are.

  I think that if people forget they are growing—that they have grown, and haughtily refuse to allow others to experience the growth process, it is a kind of hypocrisy. I get angry at hypocrites, too.

  Respectfully,
  AuldSoul
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  Are JWDers helpful to each other?

  by AuldSoul in

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  i used to think that this place was a good spot to recommend for exiting jws.

  in some wasy, it still is.

  but if they want to test the waters of doctrinal evaluation i believe it is nearly impossible.

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  AuldSoul

  I'm only upset that the person who requested I post that thread was unable to get the information from the thread that he needed. He was also unable to share the thread with the person for whom he badly wanted to share it.

  I suspect it was because Christian posters shied away from an uncontrolled and disrespectful Atheist Evangel that popped up on the thread to immediately disregard the respectful request made in the thread topic and which was restated at the outset of the first post. I know there are Christian posters here, but I think many of them are tired of his carping tactics and have just started avoiding threads he takes an interest in. He takes an interest in a great many threads.

  It should tell Terry something when even his fellow skeptics start mentioning his bullyish nature, especially if he's as keenly aware of reality as he likes to project (on as many occasions as possible).
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  Are JWDers helpful to each other?

  by AuldSoul in

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  i used to think that this place was a good spot to recommend for exiting jws.

  in some wasy, it still is.

  but if they want to test the waters of doctrinal evaluation i believe it is nearly impossible.

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  AuldSoul

  I used to think that this place was a good spot to recommend for exiting JWs. In some wasy, it still is. But if they want to test the waters of doctrinal evaluation I believe it is nearly impossible. Too many posters don't allow anyone else to go through the experimental stages they themselves went through, they try to throw everyone directly into the deep end.

  I get tired to the bone trying to help people expand their understanding a little only to have some windbag blow in followed by their sidekick high-horse riding through the thread making crap out of it by starting an ARGUMENT against the purpose of the thread, challenging it for basis in fact, exposing the Scriptures as without foundation, etc. Even when a thread specifically requests their absence, they trounce right in anyway, spewing the same crap they ALWAYS spew, on the threads THEY start and on anyone's threads they suspect of a pro-Christian agenda.

  Apparently, one sure way to make Terry place his post 2nd on your topic is to request that only Christians post to it, that posters only post Christian viewpoints to the thread , and that they use Scriptures. "If they can't take the heat, they should get out of the kitchen," doesn't work as a guiding principle in a place of healing. That's what I thought this place was. Now, I wonder.
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  For Christians: Grace vs. Forgiveness

  by AuldSoul in

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  i have been trying to sort this out scripturally, and would like to get input from christians on how these two concepts differ and/or overlap.

  please be liberal with scriptures to support statements.

  i think there may be others who are trying to figure this out for themselves, too.

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  Matt,

  I agree with your post, except for one gross understatement:

  Your style can be rather off-putting and borderline bullyish.

  Even when he's right, he's over the borderline of bullyish. When he's wrong, he's even moreso.

  Respectfully,
  AuldSoul
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  For Christians: Grace vs. Forgiveness

  by AuldSoul in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been trying to sort this out scripturally, and would like to get input from christians on how these two concepts differ and/or overlap.

  please be liberal with scriptures to support statements.

  i think there may be others who are trying to figure this out for themselves, too.

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  AuldSoul

  TheListener: I needed this thread to help me in my life. Is that sad? Yes. Is it true? YES.

  And that is really the point, kid-A and Terry. You guys are playing. Some people here are hurting and have needs that SOME of us are trying desperately to fill. Am I angry at you both? You betchya. But not because of MY thread, or MY rights, or MY thoughts getting trounced. That happens often every day in real life too.

  I'm angry at you because you needlessly and recklessly destroyed something that could have helped a specific person cope with their life a bit more easily.