AuldSoul

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  If you could say just one thing to help free a JW...

  by Mr Ben in

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  i guess it's seven years or so since i left, and back then i knew exactly what i would say when members of my cong would come and see me about my absence.

  strangely, no one, not one, came and talked about my sudden absence.

  i had actually planned a small speech that i could use when friends or the elders eventually came to see me.

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  AuldSoul

  "I love you, no matter how you treat me or what you believe, but I can't let a high-control religion like yours affect my life or my choices."
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  As predicted, no loosening of the reins . . .

  by AuldSoul in

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  2. friends

  well, the new governing body is circling the doctrinal wagons and funneling information through fewer and fewer access points.

  there is no loosening of the reins.

  i believe those who are awaiting mainstreaming from the organization are waiting in vain.

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  Well, the new Governing Body is circling the doctrinal wagons and funneling information through fewer and fewer access points. There is no loosening of the reins. I believe those who are awaiting mainstreaming from the organization are waiting in vain. This recent meeting shuffle is NOT an indication of less rigid structure, it is a direct effort to bring under closer congregational scrutiny the comments and attitudes of attendees.

  Now the CO, who was only able to visit every six months or so, is being replaced by a local elder, possibly the nearest city overseer, who will likely be able to make more frequent visits and will be local for judicial committee or investigative committee inquiries. I'd hate to be the poor brother dangling from that particular lawsuit-waiting-to-happen.

  The changes are not more mainstream, they are all geared toward making closer inspection easier and toward more careful control of information flow/content.

  Jaracz has his boys trained well. Like Renfield to Count Dracula, they all nod and say, "Yesssss, Maahster."

  Respectfully,
  AuldSoul
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  Looking for the official org chart . . .

  by AuldSoul in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a while back a poster put up a scan of the official org chart for the organization.

  i found the one doug mason was working on, but the one i am remembering came from the watchtower itself and showed the hierarchy.

  does anyone know which chart i am talking about and where i can find a good clean scan of it?

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  Bless you, Atlantis! Do you EVER fail to come through with the goods?

  <-- Atlantis, and aren't we all happy about that, eh?
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  Looking for the official org chart . . .

  by AuldSoul in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a while back a poster put up a scan of the official org chart for the organization.

  i found the one doug mason was working on, but the one i am remembering came from the watchtower itself and showed the hierarchy.

  does anyone know which chart i am talking about and where i can find a good clean scan of it?

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  AuldSoul

  You gotta be kidding me. They published another one? The one I was referring to was from back when they were still using two color printing. Downloading now . . .

  Thanks, fokyc!

  [edit] This is just an explanation of the Governing Body. What I was looking for was a hierarchical org chart that showed the layout of the organization. I know I saw this on here within the last year.
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  Looking for the official org chart . . .

  by AuldSoul in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a while back a poster put up a scan of the official org chart for the organization.

  i found the one doug mason was working on, but the one i am remembering came from the watchtower itself and showed the hierarchy.

  does anyone know which chart i am talking about and where i can find a good clean scan of it?

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  AuldSoul

  A while back a poster put up a scan of the official org chart for the organization. I found the one Doug Mason was working on, but the one I am remembering came from the Watchtower itself and showed the hierarchy. Does anyone know which chart I am talking about and where I can find a good clean scan of it?
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  Where Do JWs Get Their Sense of Legitimacy?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in reading jw literature over the years and talking to missionaries, i've often read and heard the term "manmade religion" applied to other christian churches.

  yet when i study the history, the church seems to have been built on a publishing company.

  no revelations or visions, no voices from heaven, no light or glory, no visitationsyet the jehovah's witnesses proclaim that they're the only "true" religion.

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  First off: Welcome, Cold Steel!
  

  Anyway, how long can a church keep its people on edge for the end of the world, when it doesn't seem to happen?

  According to Zion's Watchtower and Herald of Christ's Presence, January 15, 1892, they were claiming divine revelations and were saying, "Thus saith the Lord!" This same issue indicates that the church can keep people in expectation of the end of the world ever since the publishing of Millennial Dawn.

  (See the thread Dispelling Myths: 1914 Expectations)

  Respectfully,
  AuldSoul
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  watchtowers at my threrapist's office

  by loosie in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when i go to my threrapist's office, while waiting in the waiting room, i look for wts and awakes.

  when i find them i write on them a website either this one or silent lambs or i just write "this group is a cult" across the front of it.. one visit i found like 12 wts.

  i didn't have time to scribble a note on all of them before my therapist called me in.. well this week.

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  I found one that I had written "this group is a cult" on. Some JW wrote over it in pen " this group is GOOD"

  It is probable that was dutifully logged by someone as a Return Visit. If they do it three times it's a Bible Study.
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  Endosymbiosis --- A challenge to Dawkins' Universal Darwinism

  by hamilcarr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  inspired by dawkins' notion of universal darwinism, biologists have been trying to prove that all sorts of evolution can be explained by a simple paradigm of random mutation and natural selection.

  because of dawkins' ardor to spread the word, many have no idea there's far more to discover about evolutionary mechanisms beyond natural selection.. one of these challenges to dawkins' universal darwinism is called the endosymbiotic theory, popularized by lynn margulis in the 90s.

  she's known for her bold rejection of some neo-darwinian interpretations.

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  AuldSoul

  While endosymbiosis isn't likely to be the most predominant form of evolution thats occuring at any one time (or maybe not even the most prevalent overall), I'd have to say that it has the most potential for radical change - so its a very important factor.

  I think Margulis' point is exactly this, slightly modified.

  While endosymbiosis isn't likely to be the most predominant form of evolution thats occuring at any one time (or maybe not even the most prevalent overall), I'd have to say that it has the most potential for radical beneficial change - so its a very important factor.

  Evolution defined as "genetic change" sets random mutation well apart as much more frequent in occurrence than endosymbiosis, but which is more frequently the cause of a beneficial change to a species?
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  4TH WITNESS is here to expose! Apostates Beware!

  by 4THWITNESS in

  1. social
  2. humour

  bow before me all opposers and apostates.

  you are all deceivers, trying to pull people away from the truth.

  but you will not succeed because 4thwitness is now here to expose all of you for the devils children you all are.

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  AuldSoul

  Best . . . parody . . . ever.

  I love the imagery of JWs feeding their neighbors human feces as they feed themselves on cow feces.
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  Endosymbiosis --- A challenge to Dawkins' Universal Darwinism

  by hamilcarr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  inspired by dawkins' notion of universal darwinism, biologists have been trying to prove that all sorts of evolution can be explained by a simple paradigm of random mutation and natural selection.

  because of dawkins' ardor to spread the word, many have no idea there's far more to discover about evolutionary mechanisms beyond natural selection.. one of these challenges to dawkins' universal darwinism is called the endosymbiotic theory, popularized by lynn margulis in the 90s.

  she's known for her bold rejection of some neo-darwinian interpretations.

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  AuldSoul

  OK, but you understand it's not that the human genome collided with that of a virus, right? That the differences between apes and humans are not the result of endosymbiosis, right?

  Do tell. How, exactly, do you know that? More precisely, how do you know the precise mechanism that differentiated our concestors into Australopithecus, Ardipithecus, Homo, Pan troglodytes, and Pan paniscus.

  You seem to believe you have cause for empirical certainty, so please divulge your body of evidence in support of your conclusion.