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  More fanatical?

  by Agnostic Front in

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  hi all, i came to this site a few months ago looking for some advice regarding my involvment with a jw girl, i was under the impression that love was the most important thing in a relationship and that we could get around the whole 'she's a witness and i'm not' thing, the responses i received soon cleared my head of those thoughts!

  i've since made the break with elizabeth and feel so much better, although it was a painful thing to do, i still bump into her every once in a while and receive an endless stream of jw literature and invitations to various gatherings in the post, the latest being a three day convention, i read the stuff and become more convinced with every one that i've done the right thing.

  i'm still trying to work out how otherwise intelligent people can be sucked in by this bs, i hope one day that she may see the light, not so we can get together but because she's a great person.

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  Sheepish

  You are so fortunate you got loose. You save yourself so much grief.

  Maybe we Americans are just pushier somehow...or maybe because JWdom was invented here! :)
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  Disgusting comment re: education from Tacoma 2007 District Convention

  by Justitia Themis in

  1. jw
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  this is from saturday afternoon program.

  the speaker first starts with what he called the "alphabet soup" of degrees....a.a., b.a., m.a., ph.d., etc.

  ; he said they were nothing more than "sheepskins on the wall.

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  Sheepish

  "What the hell is the whole "the christ" deal anyway. It sounds so awkward. I think I'll go to spelling it 'teh christ' to further internet-leet-joke-ify it."

  I'm thinking they are using the Roman designation "Christ" for "Messiah", which we usually use as "The Messiah".Or maybe they think they are making a distinction without using the name Jesus- I mean to show it's different from other religion's messiahs. But you're right- as usual they are awkward and stilted.
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  Let the stones cry out!

  by WTWizard in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  how often have you heard the phrase "if we don't preach, the stones would cry out"?

  this is in regard to the ministry.. what i cannot figure out is (1) this is so urgent that we have to be out 18+ hours a day doing it, (2) we have to endure all sorts of conditions to accomplish our ministry, and (3) we are supposed to get it perfect so people can be drawn in.

  so, why don't the stones get to help us out?

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  Sheepish

  Maybe the point wasn't that the rocks would speak, but an idiom that tries to convey that this is such monumental news that you couldn't keep it in...I mean rather than the dry, formal, fulfilling-a-dreaded-duty-manner the witnesses spew. Speaking of which, what they were supposed to share was not the organization, but the good news that through Jesus your sins are forgiven! When has a JW come to your door with THAT info?
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  The Eden Story

  by choosing life in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the garden of eden, god supposedly didn't want adam and eve to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and bad.

  he preferred they remain innocent and incapable of deciding for themselves what is right or wrong.. along comes satan who wants them to eat of this tree and says they will become like god, knowing good and bad for themselves.

  he says they will be like god.. as we all know, they chose to eat and find out what they were missing.

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  Sheepish

  Don't mean to sound harsh here, but I tried to answer your questions in a brief manner:

  "In the garden of Eden, God supposedly didn't want Adam and Eve to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and bad. He preferred they remain innocent and incapable of deciding for themselves what is right or wrong."

  I think he preferred they OBEY him firstly.

  "Along comes Satan who wants them to eat of this tree and says they will become like God, knowing good and bad for themselves. He says they will be like God."

  And in a sideways way they did become like God...but NOT God.They made the leap to "Knowing" good and bad or rather deciding it for themselves, rather than following him.

  "As we all know, they chose to eat and find out what they were missing. Then they instantly became ashamed because they were naked. God discovers their behavior and knows they have eaten from this tree. He states. "Here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad." Then he throws them out of the garden so they are unable to eat from the tree of life and live forever."

  uh-huh.

  "My question is, why did God not want his earthly children to be like him? Isn't he perfect? Were they not made in his image? Are we not judged today on how we behave and what we decide is good and bad? First he doesn't want it and now we are judged eternally on our perceptions of good and bad."

  You may want your child to be like you, but you don't want a baby driving a car, having sex or even taking a glass of wine.(All things morally fine by the way) You, as the older, wiser one, decides when the child will have certain things. This is not unreasonable. Today,we are eternally judged on whether we have admitted our sinful state, and accepted the sacrifice of Jesus for it, and our relationship is restored with God. The standard for good and evil are still God's. It isn't necessary to make our own.

  "Can't have it both ways."

  It isn't.
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  Dubs gather at Dome - news article & comment

  by Nathan Natas in

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  Sheepish

  Nathan, reading the report I became suspicious that the reporter is a JW. It's just way too "reasonable" and positive for a normal report. Glad you emailed her!
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  Why return to the "New World"?

  by hamsterbait in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after years of hawking "new order" and "new system of things", why are the wtbcs using a term that to my ears at least sounds antiquated?.

  has the writing committee got different personnel again.

  so can we expect the return of other ideas??.

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  Sheepish

  You know, I wondered why they didn't go back sooner when George Bush Sr. started using "New World Order" so much.It sounded pretty creepy because it's pretty much the "One World Order" that they are working so hard to achieve. It doesn't take a JW to see that shaping up, but you'd a thought JW's woulda recoiled at the use of "their" term!
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  Door to door non-denomination christians

  by Bob Loblaw in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so a young man and a young woman approached my new investment property yesterday and opened with the line,..."hi, we are just talking to people in the neigborhood about jesus.

  they were dressed in street clothes so i was kind of taken aback.

  they are missionaries and there are group of about 15 of them that are attending to my neigborhood and surrounding neigborhoods.

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  Sheepish

  I just watched a testimony on "Religion and Ethics" on PBS about a congregation in Chicago that's going out every Sat for 6 months to meet the neighbors and see what they could do to help.They gave away food and clothes and help...really cool.They plan to do it every year. They suspend all their in-house programs to get everyone involved. It seems to me, if you aren't living in a way that makes people ASK what you've got, you may not have much. Christians aren't salesmen. They are supposed to KNOW we are Christians by our LOVE-not our door-to-door evangelizing. One thing I regret as a former witness is that it kept me so isolated from the very people I wanted to share with. Now I feel comfortable talking and spending time with all kinds of folks in all kinds of emotional & spiritual levels. Sometimes they ask for advice, sometimes they just need to unload, but I don't feel the need anymore to sell them on a whole organization!
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  Anyone done much study on MEMEs? Curious...

  by Dogpatch in

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  meme, myself, i. .

  susan blackmore.

  new scientist 13 march 1999 40-44. also published at new scientist, archive 13 march 1999hold out your arm in front of you.

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  Sheepish

  "There must be some reason for all this evolutionary expense." I haven't done any research into this. It was interesting to read about, butit seems quite self-contradictory. Psychology is supposedly a "science" (I personally don't believe it is), but it seems to me they are trying to study and control(as in control studies) something they don't even believe exists. (And the grant money keeps rolling in!)I don't mean to start a fight, but it seems to me people will contrive anything rather than face up to the inevitability of having to answer to their maker.
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  Christmas photo............had to share

  by Mulan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is my brother and me at my son's house last night (christmas).

  the whole family was there, almost, that are not jw's anymore.

  16 adults and 7 children.

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  Sheepish

  Really sweet! Thanks for sharing.I know how precious this is.
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  JW's vs United Church of God

  by lisavegas420 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  two months ago, i wrote the wbts and requested a 'what does the bible really teach'.

  well it hasn't shown up.

  but at the same time, i ordered a "what does the bible really teach' from the united church of god.

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  Sheepish

  Church of God (7th Day) also have many similar beliefs to JWs. They are a good people and are not heavy- handed even tho they believe in keeping the sabbath. We've fellowshipped with them with no feeling of pressure to conform to all their teachings.( We fellowship with a lot of different denominations) They came out of the Pennsylvania revival thing at the turn of the century before last, that brought us such favorites as the SDA, Millerites & JWs.They learn and grow without calling themselves the only people who hear from God, and don't set dates,