"refraction".......i missed a key......telltruth
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Moon Halo's?
by Jordan inhas anybody seen many of these before, i just saw one as i was coming in from the pub, i thought i was imagining at first, until a friend rang me and told me to take a look at the sky, he seemed convinced it was aliens.
lol.
just interested, have they been there lots of times before and i've just missed them, or are they rare?.
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Moon Halo's?
by Jordan inhas anybody seen many of these before, i just saw one as i was coming in from the pub, i thought i was imagining at first, until a friend rang me and told me to take a look at the sky, he seemed convinced it was aliens.
lol.
just interested, have they been there lots of times before and i've just missed them, or are they rare?.
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telltruth
the "moon halo's" are a result of refracton through ice crystalization in the upper atmosphere, relatively common if the sky is clear(no cloud cover) and the ambient light where you live permits. i will make a point of posting pictures of the phenom. soon. I have many photos of these taken over the years, many locations.....telltruth
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Removing "God"
by startingover in.
with the continuing thiest-athiest debates that go one here, i have a question, mainly for believers.. as a believer in god, how does it make you feel when you hear about athiest michael newdow's efforts to have "in god we trust" removed from us currency?
i guess this question could include the 10 commandments being displayed on public building issue, or removing reference to god from the pledge of allegiance.
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telltruth
defd.. we haven't met however i read as many of your posts as possible. you seem caring, intelligent and thoughtful. i wanted to ask you your opinion on the descrepancies i've noticed on the subject of religion/politics as far as the wt is concerned. we know that the wt/jw has no respect for countries(borders),their governments, and for the most part their laws, flags, anthems and the like.. but something keeps nagging at me .
why if all this disdain for the aforementioned items does the wt constantly hold up government policy when trying to make/prove a point to the jw readership. many jw's point to all the wonderful rights and freedoms we the goats have as a result of the wt/jw lawyers efforts. as if these efforts were on the behalf of us condemned to hellfire or what have you as opossed to ensuring the continuance of the wool remaining completely over the sheeps eyes. we know how the wt loves to knock worldly, higher education yet every single issue of the watchtower or awake! goes on to cite example after example of quotes from doctors, scientists, smart folk from wherever, to make some eroneous point that because this smart,educated person says this well we the jw must do that. without changing the subject to something completely irrelevant is there anyway you can assist me in understanding the constant discrepancies?.......telltruth
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Mom Makes Daughter Stand on Street Corner
by daystar ini'm rather conflicted on this.
what do you guys think?
does this qualify as psychological abuse?
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telltruth
i once saw a similar situation across the street from my place downtown.... male child, aprox.13-14yrs old wearing cardboard sign which read. i have been caught stealing from the store i am standing in front of and i am here to let everyone know that i have learned my lesson and that i can be trusted from now on..... i thought to myself, hmmmm... good idea. then noticed parent keeping close eye from a chair not far from his son. i felt compelled to share how i thought this was a lesson well learned and that they must be a fantastic parent to take such an action....telltruth
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ok i think i finally have made a decision
by Cordelia insoooooo any of you thats been following my threads thanks (and poor u) i have changed my mind so many times.
i have finally decided that i must stop trying to get reinstated, basically i got dfed 9 months ago had a boyfriend i felt i loved, was married tho still to my hubby who is only just starting to divorce me, (hes waited coz he keeps saying we could try again for the sake of our daughter but he would expect me to be completly in the 'truth') i hid the bf from my family coz they were so heartbroke and i decided to please them i would get reinstated and then fade, but as time went on i realised that wasnt an option as with a family like mine it would be so hard to do, plus there was the bf still hidden poor guy, anyway we spilt up several times, i was a complete physco i kept blaming him for everything,.
anyway last month i put my letter of reinstatement in and sat there scared stiff that they would reinstate me (as that would defo mean the end of the bf) they didnt reinstate me, and i blamed the bf and we spilt for good;.
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telltruth
hi cordelia. i agree with vitty on this. being the person who is being hidden from the jw family i can tell you it hurts like hell. you owe it to your boyfriend to be honest with him. you owe it to yourself. if your own life is the one you wish to lead, honesty is the only option... it is real....telltruth
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Friday Night In Toronto...
by telltruth inhello everyone, hope all is well with all of you.
anyone who would like to be a part of a friday evening get together/apostafest in good old downtown toronto please jump in and we will make the arrangements.
hope to see a crowd, let's have some overdue fun.....telltruth
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telltruth
hello everyone, hope all is well with all of you. anyone who would like to be a part of a friday evening get together/apostafest in good old downtown toronto please jump in and we will make the arrangements. hope to see a crowd, let's have some overdue fun.....telltruth p.s: if any of you would like to keep your participation on the qt pm instead...
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I got a nice surprise yesterday...
by Mastodon inmy wife and i started fading about 2 1/2 years ago, but for different reasons.
she had noticed the lack of love and justice in the congregations, even experienced some firsthand and the abusive conduct of elders against the r&f.
on the other side, i was starting my research on the wt and had pretty much decided i didn't want any part in the borg.
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congratulations! you and your wife are very fortunate to have each others support. have the most wonderful christmas.......telltruth
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I need help refuting a very common and stupid jw argument
by Check_Your_Premises in"if you participate in activity x it will leave less time for spiritual activities"
this i think is a false "or" type of fallacy.
as if our choices are a matter of choosing between non-spiritual or spiritual activities exclusively.
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telltruth
c_y_p.... i hope you are doing allright, all things considered. combatting anything jw with scripture never seems to get anywhere except running around in circular arguments. scripture is so full of triggers for the jw that you end up facing the good old blank stare, and being told to wait while i find the answer that will refute what you have said. (some elder somewhere will quote some nwt/wt blah,blah,blah) said answer will no doubt completely ignore or circumvent any point that you have no doubt made with considerable effort. remember what you said to me....they are right and you are wrong. instead it may be far more productive to capatilize on what your daughters' interests are. the idea of going to university under a previously mentioned "performance contract' seems like a great place to start. real schooling will present her with so much exposure to the real world among people who aren't constantly driving at her with wt doctrine. if any hard feelings towards this exposure develop they will not be directed at you. not to mention that she will be as all people do, wanting to fit in and belong amongst her new peers. this presents all sorts of opportunities for information from the real world and random knowledge outside of wt doctrines bubble. if presenting this idea to her and her mother/your wife brings up opposition perhaps you could pick up any old watchtower and point to the numerous mention and quoting of some highly qualified doctor or scientist. in fact there was in recent issue some heart warming story of some young jw who went on to become the youngest doctor ever(aren't jw's great) i wonder how one becomes a doctor or scientist that the wt feels fit to quote without a proper university education? just a thought.......telltruth.
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"It is finished"; Now What is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Now What? injust thought that i would hop on real quick to share the news.
my fade was going very well, but i decided to end the charade.
i started feeling deceptive, letting them think i was still a good dub when i didn't believe anymore, so i decided to initiate a meeting with the elders.
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telltruth
very pleased to hear of your new found peace. congratulations and the best of everything in your life.......telltruth.
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Prince lyrics...wow...
by wanderlustguy inlove, like a rose in bloom .
all of the rainbow children will feel it soon .
2 the east, word traveled about this energy .
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telltruth
this very confused dub goes to kh in toronto, lives here too. also parties on college..... but don't tell the elders.....