Cooking a dinner for my wife, taking a jog in the early evening, sleeping in late and listening to Car Talk on Saturday mornings.
daniel-p
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What Makes You Happy???
by minimus ini figured that after reading the suicide thread through, we need a more positive thread.. so what makes you happy?
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Just got a job offer!
by daniel-p ini am one happy clam!
just got a job offer at almost 10k over my current salary plus another 10k after 2 years.
it's with an agency that would afford me many more professional opportunities, transferability, and promotion potential, and, most importantly, provides excellent benefits and job security and comes at a time when i need an offer since my current company is closing soon.. also, one of the more awesome things is that this job is under the dod, so i can stick it to the watchtower!.
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daniel-p
Yes! I am one happy clam! Just got a job offer at almost 10k over my current salary plus another 10k after 2 years. It's with an agency that would afford me many more professional opportunities, transferability, and promotion potential, and, most importantly, provides excellent benefits and job security and comes at a time when I need an offer since my current company is closing soon.
Also, one of the more awesome things is that this job is under the DoD, so I can stick it to the Watchtower!
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Faders are indeed a very large doormat
by moshe insorry, to be so blunt- for a whole day i have watched people here patting themselves on the back- we're a large army, oohh, look out wt, we might do something, well not today or tomorrow, but someday!
maybe, i have to just accept that a lot of jw's who are exiting the kh by the back door will never find a backbone to stand up to mummy and elder daddy.. jw's have a learned ability to see themselves in a better light than everyone else sees them.
ask a jw, if they are a charitable religion and they would likely all say they are, but when pressed to name a charity they will be unable to do so.
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daniel-p
Daniel-P- for someone who is such a polished writer, I would have expected an insult from you that would have avoided violating TOS#1.
Moshe, for someone who is such a valued member of the JWN community, I would expect a much more mature, thoughtful, and considerate argument for coming out against the WTS than this thread.
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Faders are indeed a very large doormat
by moshe insorry, to be so blunt- for a whole day i have watched people here patting themselves on the back- we're a large army, oohh, look out wt, we might do something, well not today or tomorrow, but someday!
maybe, i have to just accept that a lot of jw's who are exiting the kh by the back door will never find a backbone to stand up to mummy and elder daddy.. jw's have a learned ability to see themselves in a better light than everyone else sees them.
ask a jw, if they are a charitable religion and they would likely all say they are, but when pressed to name a charity they will be unable to do so.
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daniel-p
Moshe: Sorry, but you're a jackass.
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For people who use the OT to try and prove that God is an awful tyrant...
by tec inthe people in the ot made mistakes about what god wanted and expected from them.
some of the laws that were given were in place because they were too hard-hearted to accept anything more merciful.
jesus clearly states this:.
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daniel-p
I do feel intense pity for those who could read the Prologue to the Gospel of John and be entranced by its wonder, but who refuse, due to whatever reason.
In my opinion, the only thing in the entire Bible worth taking to heart is the Sermon on the Mount. Other stuff may have value historically, philisophically, or literarily, but out of the entire thing that's the only portion I can say offers a clear antethisis to the archaic war-tribe sentiments of the OT.
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March 2010 Awake~Snake Handling
by purplesofa inthis is a scan from the march 2010 awake.
i thought it ironic that jehovah would not want people to handle snakes to worship.
him because it might cause suffering, pain, and even death, but would want his followers to refuse blood that can cause the .
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daniel-p
Their argument: "The Bible does not support the idea that snake handling is an acceptable feature of true worship. The Bible says 'God is love.'"
Wow! That explains everything!
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Faders are indeed a very large doormat
by moshe insorry, to be so blunt- for a whole day i have watched people here patting themselves on the back- we're a large army, oohh, look out wt, we might do something, well not today or tomorrow, but someday!
maybe, i have to just accept that a lot of jw's who are exiting the kh by the back door will never find a backbone to stand up to mummy and elder daddy.. jw's have a learned ability to see themselves in a better light than everyone else sees them.
ask a jw, if they are a charitable religion and they would likely all say they are, but when pressed to name a charity they will be unable to do so.
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daniel-p
Moshe: Without trying to "hit back," I'd say that leaving the witnesses is a process, and some people need to take longer than others. For some, relationships are more valuable than outward displays of disbelief.
I don't think its loving to pass judgment on how other people choose to manage their own exit from the JWs. Not only is it unloving, it reveals an obtuseness of character, where you think everyone can just simply do the same thing, not accounting for circumstances, personalities, strengths, and valuation.
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Dramatic posters on the board...
by tresdecu init cracks me up when i read a really dramatic "good bye to jwn" or "im outta here" threads only to see them posting a few days later.
what is the point?
if you want to stop posting for a while, then stop posting........and then if you want to start again, go for it.. are you just trying to get attention?.
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Hmmm... what's more irritating: Posts about people saying they're leaving, or posts from people who feel they need to control the behavior of others.... hmmmm.
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Possible Blood Doctrine Change: A Hypothetical Conversation with all JWs
by daniel-p injw>"but you lived anyway!".
jw>"...".
jw>"well, they'll be ressurected.".
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miseryloveselders: I'm not fantasizing, but hypothesizing a "what if" scenario. There's no need for you to be so opposed to the very idea, especially since all indication is there will eventually be a dropping of this doctrine. And this thread is not about IF it will happen, but in the case it does happen, how would you spin it? So you need to go back to the other thread.
metatron: Can I be frank with you? Calm the fuck down and listen for a second at what I'm saying! I'm not talking about some kind of "mass exodus" of average JWs. As far as the average JW is concerned, I agree whole-heartedly with what you're saying. Perhaps a better title to this thread would be "A Hypothetical Conversation with JWs On the Edge". But the fact that this may not cause the average JW to leave is irrelevant. This religion inherently carries with it a significant contingency of disgruntled, fringe, semi-apostate people with a stack of doubts and issues they've been trying to grapple with, and this will give them one more huge issue that might tip the scales. How the hell did we ourselves get here? So why wouldn't we try to exploit that?
Your stance seems to be one where we throw our hands up in the air and guffaw at the stubbornness of believers and just say "to hell with it." Well, I choose to give some people the benefit of the doubt. Even if they don't outwardly indicate agreement with any "apostate" idea, they sure as hell will remember it, and when they're ready, it will come up out of the cob-webbed corners of their mind and they'll have to confront it. So, I think you're jaded. And that's fine, but there's no reason to run around and "yell" at anyone who wants to try to help others.
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For people who use the OT to try and prove that God is an awful tyrant...
by tec inthe people in the ot made mistakes about what god wanted and expected from them.
some of the laws that were given were in place because they were too hard-hearted to accept anything more merciful.
jesus clearly states this:.
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daniel-p
The OT God was nothing but a tribal war god for the Israelites. Sanctioned genocide, slavery, and subjugation of women. If you discount the actions of the Israelites you must at the same time discount the people they used to record their history, since they most obviously construct this God to control their own people. He is a loving god when it benefits them to believe in a loving god, and he is a murderous god when it benefits them to believe in a murderous god.
And even if you adhere to the means in which this god is presented to us in the Torah, there is no convincing reason why he would choose a "nation" as his "people" when he is suposedly the god of all mankind, creating humans from dust, and then instructing them to wipe out entire other "nations" in his name. Every nation or tribe at war in history demonizes the enemy. And the most intelligent, common-sense action for a loving god to take would be to unite all mankind by peaceful means, not murderous rampages, as was in the benefit of these obscure war tribes to do so and believe they had this powerful god on their side. Really, the way the OT constructs this god is so transparent, I almost feel embarrased for those who believe that he is real and worthy of being worshipped.