Detoxification is a hoax. Read some chemistry, anatomy, and physiology that doesn't come from quacks and herbalists.
daniel-p
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ESSIAC TEA
by megaflower ini have been researching this herbal tea and it is suppose to detox the body and treat a variety of illness.
does ayone have any experience with this 4 herbal tea?
thans for any imput..
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OMG i did not just have a two hour WT fight with my wife again!!!!
by oompa indamm this snow!!
!....i mean i am separated and all but this is the second snow where i wind up back home for the night (mostly non-sexual)...i mean separation does give you time for second thoughts but damm!!!!
!.....we had a contract practically to never do this again...but she looked at me and said "so what are we going to do...what is going to happen with us".....so i went with it....and omg it was like a nightmare of every wt jw argument rolled into one!!!!!
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daniel-p
Religious arguments are just not worth it if you want any semblance of peace, within or without a marriage.
Hang in there.
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Do Most Pedophiles Use Religion as Their Cover?
by cameo-d inas children, we were always taught not to accept candy from strangers and not to ride with strangers.
however, it seems that the danger most always comes, not from a stranger, but from someone the child knows.. one day we headed to the school bus stop knowing we were 'almost' late.
we waited and waited.
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daniel-p
Religion absolves their guilt in the eyes of society. If they love Jesus and Jesus has forgiven them, no Christian cannot also forgive them...
Of course, I think this is one of the many instances where our gut feeling cannot be resolved with Christian thought.
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daniel-p
Real men don't take their fashion cues from the whims of the fairer sex. With that said, I only shave out of necessity. I don't want a beard, but I don't like shaving. So I'm a perpetual brute.
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ANOTHER GILEAD STUDENT
by not sure yet ini've been reading this forum a for some time now.
since i find myself on a crossroad i decided to start participating.
i was at gilead in 1980 and remember standing in de elevator alone with ray franz, how just gave us a lecture.
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daniel-p
Notsureyet,
If you're still feeling guilt, it seems you're in a fairly early stage in all this. I can personally attest to going through stages of guilt, shame, and then anger and acceptance as the scales fell of my eyes. However, the strongest of these emotions was shame. Shame that I had let my faith be taken away from me. I can't say that that feeling doesn't still creep up now and again, mostly sub-consiously. After all, I was raised to view my "spirituality" as synonymous with all forms of self-worth.
In any case, it seems you have little to worry about your children: it seems by their trajectory they are more than capable of taking care of themselves. I don't have children yet (one on the way), but even I can say your chilren will make their own choices in life. Higher education was one of the big issues with me, since I returned to college after having been out of school--to Bethel and pioneering the rest of the time, oh and going through a major health crisis--and I received not an inconsiderable amount of resistance to what i was doing. The frustrating thing for me was that I didn't know what else to do. Due to health reasons, I didn't have the strength to work a physical job, and in the rural area where I lived, there were no other options. I felt like I was doing what I had to do, and treated going to college as a regular job. I kept up with all my congregational assignments (which was a lot, since I was the sole MS), yet still was targetted as a negative influence in the congregation.Then, in 2005, when the Society published a series of particularly condemning articles regarding higher education, I could just no longer ignore it. I saw right through their hallow and falicious reasoning and everything else just started to fall apart.
In 2005, I got onto JWD (now JWN) and everything else is history. Everything, except of course, the trying times I went through reaching a new understanding with my wife, who did, and does, not share my view of things. She's still in, goes to meetings, although she is supportive of me and does not use the religion as a firebrand. As far as the long term... I never could envision leaving her, and never entertained the thought. We came very close a couple times to separation, very close, but we got through it. We're happy together and are not satisficing our way through life, as many others seem to do.
Anyway, just wanted to share a few things with you. Like you, in a way I would have loved to have stayed asleep and to have been able to stay at Bethel. It really was an amazing time, and I loved my time there, mostly. But truth always wins, and in the end, I think it's better to see the world with your own eyes than to go through life lulled into a false spirituality.
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ANOTHER GILEAD STUDENT
by not sure yet ini've been reading this forum a for some time now.
since i find myself on a crossroad i decided to start participating.
i was at gilead in 1980 and remember standing in de elevator alone with ray franz, how just gave us a lecture.
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daniel-p
Oh yeah and here is his story in a nutshell: http://www.freeminds.org/blogs/a-gilead-grad-s-guide-to-leaving-jws/history-of-doubt-my-story-leaving-jehovahs-witnesses.html
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ANOTHER GILEAD STUDENT
by not sure yet ini've been reading this forum a for some time now.
since i find myself on a crossroad i decided to start participating.
i was at gilead in 1980 and remember standing in de elevator alone with ray franz, how just gave us a lecture.
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daniel-p
Notsureyet,
Welcome to JWN and I hope you stick around for a while. There are more than a few other Gilead graduates on this board, one of which made his exit a couple years ago and who I had the pleasure of meeting in person: Awakened at Gilead (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/member/30627). From our conversations, it sounds like you had similar realizations he did while in Gilead. For him, I believe, his faith took a hit there, and it was dowhill after that, more or less. I think what did it for him was the extraordinary loops the GB went through to explain how everything points to them receiving Christ's approval in 1919, and how all Bible prophecy in general points to them and their authority over Christ's "belongings." You should view his Youtube videos here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5fqZ2_LzGE
I think I understand a little of the pain you might have, after having attaining your "dream come true" to go to Gilead, and then experiencing the disillusionment when the reality behind the dream hits home. As a former Bethelite, there are a lot of ways I can relate to that.
Anyway, welcome, and enjoy yourself.
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JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs!
by Alligator Wisdom intwenty+ year veteran japanese bethelites sent to the field as special pioneers.
i don't have the exact number laid off.
however, there are a total of 550+ members at the ebina branch, so if the trend reflects the same as in the u.s. and europe branches, then we can assume at least between 10% - 20%.. in order to counterbalance the need for a work force but without having to incur expenses by housing and feeding them, japan bethel is considering opening the door to "commuting bethelites".
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daniel-p
These laid-off Bethelites will become like Ronin, consigned to wander without a master, looked down upon with disdain from those Bethelites who were not forced out, yet unprepared to end their JW lives.
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'Giving Attention to the Needs of the Circuit.' Sooo uplifting...
by whereami inthese people just love instiling guilt on these poor souls.. .
at a recent circuit assembly a circuit overseer gave an awesome talk during the portion, 'giving attention to the needs of the circuit.
and with such a high pricetag, please don't let it be empty.
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daniel-p
In fact, when he applied the scripture in Acts about the price of our seat at the kingdom hall, the audience actually gasped, sort of one of those hair-standing-on-the-back-of-your-neck moments.
It was actually probably someone passing GAS, which can be confused with GASPS quite easily.
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uni is not all its cracked up to be me dears, sorry
by highdose ini've noticed on this forum the big regret of alot of people seems to be that they didn't go to collage or university.. speaking as someone whose done the whole shebang, i can tell you that while yes i learnt alot at collage, uni taught me very little at all.
in fact anything i learnt i taught myself by spending hours apon hours in the uni libary, which i could have done by just getting a day pass.. my degree has not helped me in my career, i already knew how to do what i do before going to uni.
i run my own business now but i am sure that if i ever went for an employee postion my years of experiance would count far more than the bit of paper i have proving i have a degree.. getting a degree is pretty much down to knowing how to work the academic system.
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daniel-p
Education is what you make of it.