Posts by lonelysam

maybe the advice i need is somewhere else in this forum, but i really don't want to have to search for it, i really need some advice now and i don't have the time to sift through all of the other entries here.

so please bear with me and share any and all advice you have, even if you think it's not what i want to hear.

lonelysam

yeah i say run, real fast

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Horrible Life - Can you help???

by misspeaches in

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horrible life i know you are such a talented dental hygeniest... can you help these poor critters with their teeth problems?

may i present to you.... the alabama hunting dogs!!

lonelysam

there probly fake teeth, we used to put them in one of our dogs mouth, she used to just sit there just like in that pic, hahahaa it was sooo funny!

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Brainwashing/Mind control

by Evanescence in

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do you think the jehovah's witnesses used any brainwashing or mind control techniques on their members?.

what brainwashing techniques do you think they used?.

what do you think works best on jw's to get them out of the mind control?

lonelysam

i agree with rebel8, i really dont think all of them are aware of what they are doing, it all comes from the organisation, ''the organisation comes from jehovah'' *laughs* so they can just say whatever they want and say its gods word

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confused 18 year old

by lonelysam in

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hey everyone,.

as you can see im new here, and like every new person im trying to sort alll this jw stuff out.

i have no idea where to start, but here goes.. i first started questioning all this when 'a brother' in the congregation sexually abused one of my best friends family members, he did not get disfellowshipped, but he got publicly reproved?!

lonelysam

i know exactly what you mean about ''which is the true religeon'' im starting to think maybe there is no true religeon, and maybe God looks at individuals instead of groups. As to do with the rest of your post sorry to say i dont understand alot of it, i will do my research though (just like you have), im still learning alot about the bible and hopefully soon will understand it a bit more. it seems as if you have dealt with a huge amount over your time in bethel, and the way that the organisation has lied to you

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confused 18 year old

by lonelysam in

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hey everyone,.

as you can see im new here, and like every new person im trying to sort alll this jw stuff out.

i have no idea where to start, but here goes.. i first started questioning all this when 'a brother' in the congregation sexually abused one of my best friends family members, he did not get disfellowshipped, but he got publicly reproved?!

lonelysam

hmmm, thats a good point sam the man, i dont know the answer to that one. what is your view on the bible? do u still beleive it at all? and if you do/dont what has made you decide? thanks

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Still on the fence!

by acuragirl in

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hey everyone i know its been a while since i posted but today i felt the need.just wanted to update you all on my position which is still brainwashed!i just dont know what to do i gain my strength to conquer this disease,(thats what i call being born in the org) from others like freedom lover who have come out of this religon free and clear i know its not easy but i know it can be done.i dont know why i just cant get over it and move on already,but theres thats piece of me that says,but what if?then im back, screwed and tatooed with jdub on my forehead,thinking that jehovah is upset and dissapointed with me and satan has me in his grasp.im stil sooo confused even with all the evidence pointing to they are full of crap!what if they arent?i just want to know the truth even if i dont choose to follow it,i want to know if jehovah is watching me torment myself every day,going back and forth and i cant take it anymore.then i think what if there is no jehovah?who the hell am i praying to with my daughter at night?

(the air mabe)you see my daughter still believes even though she is ready to celebrate halloween this year and yes we bought her a costume,cinderella!my mother comes and takes her every now and then only if i promise to go to some meetings and i did last weekend i attended the sunday meeting for once in a about 6 months!felt strange to be there but once again going to a different cong i got love bombed.btw i feel guilty and scared about having anything to do with halloween this year.yup still dealing with the guilt,fear,agony,of knowing and believing in the dubs,for so long now trying desperately to get out without feeling the way i do.i just dont know what to do anymore and its a shame because the dubs have sucked the life out of me(guess i didnt check my doubts soon enough).if i dont get off the fence soon im going to go nuts.i like believeing that satan doesnt even exist and that there is no heavenly org.gives me peace of mind that i can just live my life,if theres a god,fine,is it jehovah?thats where the conflict arises and i cant just go on with my life thinking jehovah has lost me to the other side!

!im not a lost cause yet guys.i need new light!

lonelysam

i agree with legolas, i am looking into CoC at the moment, its going to be a tuff one, but worth it in the end.

As for words of encouragement, i am going through similar at the monent and i can say it isnt easy, just try and look at it from a logical view, and trying to look at it as if you are looking from a third person is also very helpfull. sorry but thats all i can think of, i hope you pull through

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confused 18 year old

by lonelysam in

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hey everyone,.

as you can see im new here, and like every new person im trying to sort alll this jw stuff out.

i have no idea where to start, but here goes.. i first started questioning all this when 'a brother' in the congregation sexually abused one of my best friends family members, he did not get disfellowshipped, but he got publicly reproved?!

lonelysam

Thank you all soooo much for the kind words and very good advice, its amazing to see such a large bunch of people who can have an independant thought outside what the organisation want you to. I would like to exsplain a little more if i could.

My family all think the same as me, and we are all in this together, so whatever my choice is, they are beside me, which i am very thankfull for.

The other thing is that the phedophile was convicted, but got a suspended jail sentence. Also this whole thing happened about 10 years ago, how i know about it is through my family, which have very very acurate sources, (one of our friends was a private investigator) not to mention it was my best friends family that it happened to, so i am 100% sure that what i am telling you is the truth.

I will also continue my study into the bible, at the moment i am trying to prove the bible to myself with facts, so far i have found some very interesting things.

Thank you all again, and i will continue to participate in this forum

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Why do YOU trust the bible?

by gringojj in

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for anyone here who still believes the bible is gods inspired word, why?

what research have you personally done to verify that all of the contents are true?

do you know who ultimately assembled the different books to make the bible?

lonelysam

I have found an interesting fact on all of this, and i know you all would know it already, but here it is just in case. in the dead sea scrolls it says that the earth is round, these scrolls were written thousands of years ago, when no one knew about the earth being round. Not just this but the translation of the bible nowadays isnt much (if any at all) different to what it was back then, according to these dead sea scrolls. feel free to coment on this