Hey Shunned! Welcome to the board..you will feel right at home here!
ConnieLynn
she tells me she registered as "shunned".
please give her the big warm apostate .
j w d style!!!.
Hey Shunned! Welcome to the board..you will feel right at home here!
ConnieLynn
washington (cnn) -- president bush's daily intelligence briefing in the weeks leading up to the september 11 terror attacks included a warning of the possibility that osama bin laden's al qaeda network would attempt to hijack a u.s.-based airliner, senior administration officials said wednesday.
but, the officials said, there was no speculation about the use of an airplane itself as a bomb or a weapon, and no specific, credible information about the possibility of a hijacking of any sort.
hijackers took over the controls of four planes on september 11, 2001. two of those planes plowed into new york's world trade center, another jetliner nose dived into the pentagon and the fourth aircraft crashed into pennsylvania woodlands after passengers tried in vain to overcome the terrorists.
"This is all political in an election year. Nothing more, nothing less." -
AMEN!
washington (cnn) -- president bush's daily intelligence briefing in the weeks leading up to the september 11 terror attacks included a warning of the possibility that osama bin laden's al qaeda network would attempt to hijack a u.s.-based airliner, senior administration officials said wednesday.
but, the officials said, there was no speculation about the use of an airplane itself as a bomb or a weapon, and no specific, credible information about the possibility of a hijacking of any sort.
hijackers took over the controls of four planes on september 11, 2001. two of those planes plowed into new york's world trade center, another jetliner nose dived into the pentagon and the fourth aircraft crashed into pennsylvania woodlands after passengers tried in vain to overcome the terrorists.
It seems to me like every single time something newsworthy happens, conspiracy theorist come out of the woodwork. 9/11 was the most awful thing that I can remember happening. I think Bush responded the best way anyone political leader could have. This media frenzy seems like nothing more than a political soapbox for the upcoming primaries.
engrish has thrown down the gauntlet by insulting my people about iq.
besides fact that iq bogus, engrish overlook nother fact.. what is intelligence?
what is knowledge?
I must say I agree with AMarie. I too used to be a JW. I bristled a little at the comment that JW's are not intelligent generally. JW's are controlled, coerced, and mostly fearful of anything outside the org.
I consider myself to have been intelligent enough to leave the JW's. I also am more intelligent now as an ex-JW and yes, that is due in part, to more education. Part of that education came form college, but a lot of it came from experiencing life on the outside.
i wonder how the average iq of most jw's would measure up to the average iq of non-witnesses?.
i think that they would rate less than most.
i say this because, having met up with a few still-witnesses recently, they just don't seem to be too prolific in the brain cell department.
I think you misunderstood English, he did not say secular IQ is more important than spiritual IQ. He questioned two things 1) If JW ability to reason (or use their brain) atrophies because their thinking is done for them or 2) If people with low IQ's are drawn to JW's. I think English brings up a couple of good points.
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i wonder how the average iq of most jw's would measure up to the average iq of non-witnesses?.
i think that they would rate less than most.
i say this because, having met up with a few still-witnesses recently, they just don't seem to be too prolific in the brain cell department.
That is the least intelligent thing I have heard so far... Many people on this board are Spriritual, not controlled by an Organizatiion that tells them what to believe. Yes, many of us have gone on to get a secondary education, and appreciate it. That doesn't make us less appreciative of a higher power, or a divine education. I would venture to say that most people on this board consider education, the main reason they are here.
i wonder how the average iq of most jw's would measure up to the average iq of non-witnesses?.
i think that they would rate less than most.
i say this because, having met up with a few still-witnesses recently, they just don't seem to be too prolific in the brain cell department.
I remember being told that if I read all the societies publications, that it was equal to a college degree...
well, my brother and his wife came over to my parent's house to visit today while i was home.. to make a long story short, while my brother and his wife were chatting with my mother in the living room, my 1 and a half year old nephew reilly walked into the kitchen where i was making a caesar salad.. he walked over towards me and was smiling, how can any normal adult resist the innocent smile of a child who is your relative?
i picked him up and gave him a huge hug, and told him i loved him.. as i was holding my nephew in my arms, my brother walked into the room.
he was smack dab in the middle of an in-depth conversation about jehovah with my mother and his wife, and i admit i was rolling my eyes listening to him spew about the "truth" and "the only means for salvation in the last days of this wicked system" even though when i confronted him with info on the un, blood, russell gravesite, rape changes, exclusivity, etc, he had no response for me because he was dumbfounded and lost for words.
I am so sorry. No matter how long we're out, it doesn't really hurt any less does it? You were the better man by holding your cool, you nephew will catch on to that soon enough.
Connie
* not only do you attend apostofests, you manufacture little badges with smurfs on them to wear to them!.
* more than one of your friends is simply "that guy from the apostofest".. * your name is "apostofest guy" (see tourist guy!).
* you travel over national borders in order to attend apostofests.. * you know all the regular posters here by their first names.. * you own a collection of smurfs.. * you have been referred to as the spawn of satan more than once by a jehovah's witness (bonus points for this sort of thing coming from an elder).. * you run an anti site!.
1) When you walk in, the whole bar says hello..
2) Have a sticky note by the door on Saturday mornings with talking points - just in case
Okay, I know the 2nd one is sick, but I'm ready for them!!
okay, my mom has been sick, back in forth to florida i have been.
she has a serious health issue and almost died because of the blood issue a month ago.
she is on the mend (thankfully).
Okay, my mom has been sick, back in forth to Florida I have been. She has a serious health issue and almost died because of the blood issue a month ago. She is on the mend (thankfully). I helped out as much as I could and it seemed to really mend our relationship. I checked in with her yesterday after she was supposed to get a vital report from the doctor. Well, SHE brought up the JW/child molestation issue again. (The first time was when there had been an article on CNN and she wanted to warn me about it). Yesterday when I called, she informed me that disgruntled witnesses were bringing reproach on Jehovah's organization etc... well, I totally lost it and just let'r rip. I am positive that I "un-did" all the progress I had made when she was sick. She hung up on me. I called back and got voice mail.
What really pisses me off is that her father molested her as a child and I thought she would have some sort of indignation about the whole thing. She is going to protect the organization no matter what!
It makes me feel nuts, I just don't get it and I don't think I ever will. I think I also got my hopes up because she let me help when she was so sick. I have been out for several years and I still want a relationship that I can't have anymore.