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It is not a direct economic quid pro quo.
There is also the more prominent feature of whether the local BOE and the circuit overseer LIKE YOU OR NOT.
I do know of several moderately well off elders who were good contributors but who never went out in door to door service...but again, that only lasted until a new circuit overseer came in who did not like these guys.
the watchtower society is a monolithic power invested by its own self with power of attorney representing the supreme being in his dealings with mankind.
the watchtower represents itself as the "mouthpiece of god".
it speaks for jehovah.. but, does it treat the persons it deals with fairly and with due process?
You don't have to worry about either the illusion or the reality of fair proceedings when you have convinced everyone that God is looking over your shoulder and therefore you can absolutely do no wrong.
I really wonder why the Watchtower judicial system even maintains the fantasy of an "appeal process" at all.
just recently, some scientists managed to sequence neanderthal dna.
while this discovery is not totally explored at this point, the following data are quite solid.. using different techniques, two teams of scientists separately sequenced large chunks of dna extracted from the femur of a 38,000-year-old neanderthal specimen found in a cave [image] 26 years ago in croatia.
one team sequenced more than one million base pairs and the other 65,000 pairs of the genome.. .
barry, if they did not interbreed, then they could not share 5% of the DNA code with modern european humans.
Latest thinking (considering their burial sites, etc.) indicates that the Neanderthals were not nearly as ape-like or primative as sometimes previously thought.
The reasons for their demise are still being debated.
he is accused of performing "abortions" after the birth of live babies.
where does planned parenthood stand on this case?.
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Further on Mamochans questions:
My third, back to James. Yes. I agree religion needs to stay out. But how do you decide on the limits of the human rights?
The classical answer is that your human rights stop when they obtrude on another person's human rights. Society (American Society) has generally agreed that abortion rights stop when the child becomes a viable living baby. I arbitrarily (and conservatively) therefore supported limiting abortion to less than four months (20 weeks approximately) for that reason.
I'll toss in a fourth. Is it better to force a mother who desperately wants rid of that child to give birth or is it better to give her an out? I'm guessing many of this "doctors" patients were poor and unable to fathom raising a child.
She should have that choice up to four monthis into the pregnancy, which is adequate time to make a decision.
I am willing to encounter debate on the issue of four months to some flexibility - a few weeks sooner or later could be argued.
Like I said, I don't like common abortions, but this is my compromise for American secular law on the subject. This is what I think the Republican Party should adopt as their platform on the subject as well.
he is accused of performing "abortions" after the birth of live babies.
where does planned parenthood stand on this case?.
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James when did you begin to think the babies inside a Mother's womb were no longer a human being? Was this part of the 1970s Enlightenment you experienced after you left the Organization?
I never began to think that - I still do not think that. However, the key aspect is viability, as debated above outside my answer.
I want to make it clear again - I am personally opposed to abortion in almost all cases (except for life of mother, rape, etc...)
However I am stating what I think is a realistic POLITICAL position on the topic - not a personal position, not a religious position.
I do not think it is the business of the federal government to try to legislate morality or religion.
so does this mean aawa is going to stop shunning?
are they themselves not guilty of shunning those who shun?
shunning can never be stopped no matter how bad you want it to.
I don't have strong feelings either way about AAWA. I just started back to school had an accident on my bike and working full time. I have not had much time. I do believe that when ex-jw's act in any way angry it gives us a bad name. I remember being brain washed that apostates are angry and mean. We are here for eachother not them. Let's make friends we all know we need them.
I can not imagine being ousted before I was ready. I could care less now. It is a personal choice that should not be forced on.
I have not read all the pages so may be missing something. I'll catch up this weekend.
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It is so nice to see you again, Found Sheep.
Has your hair grown longer by now?
I have a V-12 Aston Martin and the TSG Cat is fine.
he is accused of performing "abortions" after the birth of live babies.
where does planned parenthood stand on this case?.
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BTW, Mamochan - who can really say if the term is 3 months 29 days or if it is 4 months 31 days? That is legalism personified.
What I meant was that it should not be very late term abortion and such a law should leave no doubt about that.
he is accused of performing "abortions" after the birth of live babies.
where does planned parenthood stand on this case?.
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But my first question, to James Woods. So you are going to set an arbitrary 4 months standard. What about the fetus at 3 months and 29 days? How can you differentiate?
I think I made it clear that I do not like the compromise that I proposed in my original statement. I believe I made it clear that I do not LIKE abortion at all. But, it is a reality of 21st century North American life. and thus should be given attention and regulation by a sane society.
However, it is perfectly clear that if we want to allow SOME abortion, but prevent very late term or even birthing abortions, some time interval must be presented. I arbitrarily chose four months.
Perhaps other medical or ethical thinkers with more insight than I have would like to adjust that time span - it is not a primary issue with me. But some such time limit must obviously apply if we are to avoid the Gosnell style type of horrors. Medical experts would also say that this is an issue as well in the interest of the health and even life of the mothers.
so does this mean aawa is going to stop shunning?
are they themselves not guilty of shunning those who shun?
shunning can never be stopped no matter how bad you want it to.
Watchtower teaches and enforces a brand of shunning that prohibits normal healthy familial and social communications and shared affections. This is an extreme form of social isolation that’s deadly.
So, are you suggesting that if you had a family member who was a child molester, you would NOT shun them for family reasons?
just recently, some scientists managed to sequence neanderthal dna.
while this discovery is not totally explored at this point, the following data are quite solid.. using different techniques, two teams of scientists separately sequenced large chunks of dna extracted from the femur of a 38,000-year-old neanderthal specimen found in a cave [image] 26 years ago in croatia.
one team sequenced more than one million base pairs and the other 65,000 pairs of the genome.. .
Has it been mentioned that the title of this thread is somewhat of a misnomer?
While it is true that the Neanderthal genome is similar to (and likely viable as a mating partner with) cro-magnon if not modern human species, there are only about 3% of exactly similar (matching) Neanderthal strands to the modern examples of DNA from Western Europe. Zero percent from the most truly ancient direct descendants of African homo sapiens.
There is another species (Siberian Denisovan) which is carried by about 5% DNA of certain northen European modern humans.
This shows that the human species has a diverse and complex genetic background - and is a death blow to the single human (Adam) theoretical ancestor of only about 5,000 to 6,000 years past.
