I could see a real child actually writing that. Very cool.
Shawn10538
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Caleb's Letter to Jehovah
by NewChapter init seems that this sparlock video will only have an impact on jw's, but it does have an impact on those that never even associated.
i showed the video to a friend of mine, and shared the sensation that has grown out of it.
he actually had a dream about sparlock writing a letter to jehovah!
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300 Mormons March in Utah Gay Pride Parade, Implications for Closet Jehovah's Witnesses
by Scott77 inwhat are implication from this article for the watchtower jehovah's witnesses lgbt members who are still in closet?.
june 3, 2012 9:31 pmprint text 300 mormons march in utah gay pride parademormons building bridges marches in the annual gay pride parade through downtown salt lake city, sunday, june 3, 2012.
(ap photo/the salt lake tribune, scott sommerdorf).
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Shawn10538
I'm so sick of hearing about (black people, slaves, women, immigrants, disabled persons, political prisoners etc.) and their precious rights and ridiculous pride marches. No one's treating them badly anymore or ostracising them. It's not like there's apartheid against (black people, slaves, women, immigrants, disabled persons, political prisoners etc.) or anything. What do they want? Poor diddums (nigg@rs, bitches, wet b@cks, r@tards, c@mmies) we demand the right to marry each other. Pathetic.
Find something real to protest about instead of (whether you can vote, whether you are free, whether you are barred from entering buildings and have access to services, whether or not you can meet as a group, whether or not you can get an abortion). How about (black people, slaves, women, immigrants, disabled persons, political prisoners etc.) marching for the rights of tens of millions of impoverished, malnourished children everywhere? Or (black people, slaves, women, immigrants, disabled persons, political prisoners etc.) marching for an end to global banking and corporate greed and corruption.
yours truly,
yadda yadda 2
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AJWRB---What Have They Done???
by minimus ini still never really understood what these phantoms ever did.
i've read many praiseworthy comments lauding the site or people behind it.
but in reality, what major good have they done to change jehovah's witnesses' views on blood?.
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Shawn10538
Still waiting for the inference to sink in with minimus. Look into my eyes Minimus. Deeeep into my eyes......
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AJWRB---What Have They Done???
by minimus ini still never really understood what these phantoms ever did.
i've read many praiseworthy comments lauding the site or people behind it.
but in reality, what major good have they done to change jehovah's witnesses' views on blood?.
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Shawn10538
"When Zen, the AJWRB spokesman tells the Witnesses that it's ok to accept blood if you need it, it's laughable. NO JW would listen to him and simply accept this....unless they didn't believe the Watchtower's position from the onset."
Minimus, look into my eyes as I speak in the video. Does it look like I am kidding? Just take a breath before you watch it again, and see if there is even a hint that I doubt the effect of my simple direct heartfelt words addressed directly to JWs.
Notice, that I offer not a single bit of evidence or proof that taking blood to save your life is the right thing to do. Do you think that was an accident? No. I purposely offered not a smidgeon of support for my words. What does that say? What is the inference when someone simply lays it out like that? think about it. See of you can guess what my inference is. Post a reply to it here.
If you can get the inference, then you will see how powerful it is when it is said just that way. watch it several times if you need. Then tell us what my point is.
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AJWRB---What Have They Done???
by minimus ini still never really understood what these phantoms ever did.
i've read many praiseworthy comments lauding the site or people behind it.
but in reality, what major good have they done to change jehovah's witnesses' views on blood?.
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Shawn10538
Minimus,
I’m glad you asked this question, even though I have a feeling it is not really a question so much as it is a criticism. But that’s OK too.
I really can’t answer for AJWRB before I took it over last year. The goals of AJWRB have changed. I actually don’t know what the whole point of the organization was before I joined it. There was a minimal amount of activism as far as I can tell. Lot’s of informational activism. But as far as actually hitting the pavement, I don’t know how much of that was done.
Right now, I can tell you that the goal of AJWRB is NOT to change anybody’s religion or beliefs. The present goal is plainly printed in large letters as soon as you log onto the site: SAVING LIVES. That’s it. I really don’t care about anything else.
How to best save lives, is something you could help us with. Have you, for instance, completed AJWRB ACTION NUMBWER 1? Do you know what that is? If you are worried about the effectiveness and success of AJWRB, the best thing you could do is to JOIN US.
Join the forum. You must email me at [email protected] to join the forum, or email me at [email protected], or call me at 562-257-7525. Once you do that, you can also, since I see you write quite a lot, 36,000 posts, maybe you can write us some material or do some research and I’ll post it on the site.
Action number 1, is basically to donate blood, record the event, and mail in the “You’re Welcome Watchtower Card” that you can download from the site. Download the brochure and the card is on the back of the brochure.
Calls from doctors are trickling in. I have received two calls from doctors in distress the last two weeks or so. I have given my recommendations, and am still waiting on news whether the JW was actually saved. That is my main goal. I feel our procedures for talking with JWs will isolate the “weak JWs” and get them to take a transfusion. I also recommended to the doctors to first try and get them to accept a blood fraction product, give them their transfusion bracelet and then point out that they have already received a blood transfusion, and that the doctor just wants them to accept this one more small blood fraction, red blood cells usually.
In one case, a JW life was saved as a direct result of my suggestions to a doctor. Therefore, I consider what I am doing a success based on just ONE life being saved. It is all worth it now.
As to whether this site can change the religious beliefs of JWs, well, it HAS done so, as many have already attested to, and then of course, there is myself who was also helped out of the organization as a result of doing research on blood and coming across the site, but that is not what I am concerned about. How many people have YOU personally helped out of the JW religion? Have YOU personally been responsible for the Watchtower changing a major doctrine? I don’t know if ANY one person or organization can make that claim.
So, if you want AJWRB to be a success, then simply put your money where your mouth is and join us. Job done. Then YOU will have to answer that question and take responsibility for its success or failure. In the meantime, I have only a handful of people doing regular work for the cause. We could use more. Hundreds more. Thousands more. Once we have a decent couple of dozen people doing activism, holding blood donation events, then we can start meeting and looking at our results and methods as to whether they are working or not. But we are a long way from that. Mostly we need people with good ideas, and people who have time to volunteer. People who want to go out and hold face time with medical professionals.
Have you spoken to your doctor about AJWRB? Have you distributed brochures? Also, I have four pages in the Free Minds Journal, the last three issues or so, and this four page insert may be used and distributed. To get ahold of them you will need to subscribe to the physical copies of the Free Minds Journal which costs 10 dollars a year, or something like that.
So, join us and help us be successful is all I can say if you are concerned about what we have accomplished. AJWRB has a new direction now than it has had in the previous decade or so. But it still is largely an informational site. Though now I am pushing the activism of the site, and you know what it is like asking ex JWs to get out of their homes and volunteer. Like herding cats as some have said. Until I get more people on board, I am only one person so don’t expect miracles. I am not magic.
But I do believe in the cause. It is worthy of our dedication. I wish more people felt the way I feel about it. It is the one way we can really say I love You to our old family and friends. Give them our blood! It is a beautiful gesture, and when many people see how beautiful it is they will not be able to hold themselves back form expressing their love in donating blood as activism. It is a totally new concept according to Dr. Fridey of the Red Cross. Nobody has ever come to the Red Cross with a group of people who want to donate blood AS ACTIVISM. It is a unique one of a kind idea, and ONLY YOU can make it a FAILURE.
Call me, email me join me. As Harvey Milk was famous for saying, “I am here to recruit you.”
Peace, Love and Zen
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Can one have their JW baptism annulled?? Seriously?
by mind blown inwould it be possible??
seriously.. i feel i was baptized under false pretense.
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Shawn10538
I have heard of it actually. My friend Mark Goodman. Lia goodman from El Monte, (Mark's mother) had her baptism "annulled" (I'm not sure that they used that word though) because she felt that she wasn't really honest about it the first time. And so she got baptised again. we all knew her for years, since I was a kid, and then all of a sudden, at age 50 or so, she is there at Woodland Hills Assembly Hall getting baptised again. So, it has happened. I'm not sure if anybody would even play ball with you in terms of actrually taking you seriously if you weren't a practicing member. I think they would probably blow you off. But if it can be done, i would try to do it. I think I am going to look into in fact since you brought it up. I think I was coerced as well, and I would love to get a letter acknowledging that I was never baptised.
This may be a novel way to get your family to talk to you again in fact.
And yes, apostatethunder, go f### yourself off.
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Shawn10538
The whole thing is creepy. You really get a sense of the control the headquarters has over the congregations. It's amazing that they try to distance themselves from the congos legally.
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Scientific reasons for belief in God v moral arguments against belief
by yadda yadda 2 ini have to admit that i do find it very very hard to believe there is no 'god' or higher intelligent power or cosmic force of some kind behind it all.
at the very last a non-personal einstein or spinoza version of god.
the articles here on this website sum up most of my reasons for belief: ww.godevidence.com/category/evidence.
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Shawn10538
I love how James Brown says, "I'll help you out...:
Oh really James Brown? Oh great wise one James Brown, can you really help all us atheists out? Gee you must be so super smart and wise. I'm glad you are around to help us all think....
...and then he goes on to offer some of the oldest and tiredest arguments for God, arguments that have been discounted centuries ago. Oh gee great wizard of science, you really must be super wise...
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My Latest View On J.W.
by FlierMate ini have been self-introducing few months ago, and were welcomed by many of you.
although i was disassociated, and committed serious sins* afterward, i am not fully disagree with everything the j.w.
taught.
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Shawn10538
Actually it would be considered porneia, but not fornication. It would be called loose conduct. It could be a disfellowshipping offence depending on the attitude like any other sin. But, according to my understanding andhaving researched this subject more than any other subject of JWs, it is not fornication.
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I'm curious...........how many of you are going out in Field Service tomorrow? I'm serious.
by La Falta Habitacion Por Sr Hor-Hey!! injust wondering.
i'm going out in the morning, but i'm wondering who else here in undercover apostate land will be meeting up with their own respective groups for theocratic activity tomorrow.
for those of you going, will you be preparing your presentations tonight?.
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Shawn10538
What kind of presentations do you use when you don't believe?
I have some ideas of how you could do it without lying to anyone:
Insist that you do your doors alone and make your partner wait at the sidewalk. Tell them you have been experiencing some fear of man so you need to conquer your fear by going alone, if that works.
Then knock on the door and when the householder opens say, "Listen, sorry to bother you, I came today because I am having serious doubts about my religion, and though I don't believe in it anymore I am trapped in a situation where my family would shun me if I were to come out as not believing it anymore, so if you could just wave at my partner out on the sidewalk and give them a thumbs up I would really appreciate it. And I promise I won't bother you again."