:: 25. Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves for they shall never cease to be amused The story of my life!
Same here!!
-Becka :)
you must laugh, even if you've heard them before!
25 phrases of wisdom
1. if you're too open minded, your brains will fall out.
:: 25. Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves for they shall never cease to be amused The story of my life!
Same here!!
-Becka :)
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hi guys, .
ok, so i was talking to my jw boyfriend a few days ago (heh, how many of my threads start out like that??
I would love to read this post and the replies but the writing goes off the end of my screen and it is far too much trouble to scroll back and forth every line.Maybe my screen is too small. What size should I get?
Yeah, I get the same thing. Sometimes, the threads get really wide and I'm not sure why, it might have something to do with the text wrapping.
For me, I just scroll over, there's a scroll bar on the bottom of my screen that lets me scroll across to read the words that go off the end of the screen. It's still narrow enough for me to scroll over and be able to see it all on the screen at the same time, I just can't see the poster's information (avatar, age, etc.).
I don't know how to fix it, but it might just be easiest to copy and paste the posts into a word processor, even something as simple as Notepad or Wordpad, just for the sake of being able to read them.
And everyone else, I'm sure there's lots of people out there who can help point me in the right direction, please help me out here!!
-Becka :)
two weeks ago my wife had a miscarriage at 11 weeks.
it is very sad as it was to be my first child and my wife is already 39. what hurt the most though is that none of my immediate family contacted me.
i was d/f in january and did not expect to hear regularly from my parents and sister.
((((((((jwfacts and wife))))))))
My heart goes out to you, jwfacts, it's unbelievable that your family, your own flesh and blood, wouldn't contact you when something like this happens, all because a bunch of old men in Brooklyn says not to. This time is hard enough for you, you shouldn't have to deal with your family's ignorance and hurtful behaviour, too.
It makes me so angry that a group of people can have so much control over their followers as to tear families apart. If I didn't know better, I'd day that this sort of thing couldn't happen because nobody would cut their family members out of their lives just because someone said so.
I know that this board is no replacement for your family, but I hope you can find some comfort here and know that we're here for you when you need us. If you need anything, you know where to come.
My condolences to you and your wife, and I hope your family can see the error of their ways and accept you back into their lives.
-Becka :)
i find it hard to be sympathetic to polygamists who are offended by the hbo comedy.
for me the idea of mormon polygamy so disturbing, that i cringed when the california zephyr (amtrak) crossed the colorado/utah border traveling into utah, i immediately got the creeps.
it was just eery.
I was actually reading an article from MSNBC yesterday about polygamy and Mormons.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11548419/
In Salt Lake City, a judge was removed from the bench recently for having three wives, even though bigamy (or in this case, polygamy) is illegal in Utah (hmm, home of the Mormons, imagine that). Apparently, he's married to three sisters and has 32 kids between them all, and he was married by the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a fundie sect of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. (Wait, how the hell did he manage to get married three times in a state that prohibits plural marriages??)
I agree with FHN, the concept of polygamy is creepy. Really, no woman is going to want to share her husband with other women, that's just not right, and like FHN said, not all of the women involved in plural marriages are there voluntarily.
They might not promote polygamy anymore, but just the thought of it still makes me really glad that I'm not a Mormon.
-Becka :)
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i'm sure i can find some biblical reference about fluff.... what about.... "man cannot live on bread alone, everyone needs fluff once in a while" - pharasees 1:3.
There is a distinct lack of fluff here this weekend, and I think some posters are suffering from withdrawal. I actually started a doctrine thread earlier and it has a whopping 9 posts, half of which are mine. I guess that some days, JWD is just more interested in fluff, and this must be one of those days.
Unfortunately, I'm all out of fluff at the moment, and I'm too lazy to go find a decent piece of Scripture to desecrate. I'll surely take a peek at some of my favourite passages in a while and see what I can do with them, though. Hey, I can't pass up a good fluff thread!!
-Becka :)
now, that i'm in my forties...heading toward fifty, fast; i feel old.
i feel like i've wasted a good part of my life with religious hang-ups!
i think that i would have done a lot of things differently had i not been raised the way i was.
Do I feel old?? Depends on when you ask.
If it's been a long week at school, I haven't slept much, I've spent too much time doing homework and I haven't eaten as much as I should have, then yes, I feel very very VERY old. Some days, after a few nights of only getting maybe 4 hours of sleep and not eating regularly, I feel like I'm 80 years old.
But, if I'm eating and sleeping well and I'm not too overworked, then I feel like a 12-year-old!! It also helps that I haven't changed at all, physically, since junior high, so I still look young, too!!
Right now, I'm feelin' pretty good, I slept lots last night, I'm cooking some tortellini for supper and I'm gonna veg out in my PJs with a good 80s movie and some popcorn later on, so right now, I'm definitely feeling really young!!
-Becka :)
edit: i changed the subject of this thread, just to be more specific and get more attention.. .
hi guys, .
ok, so i was talking to my jw boyfriend a few days ago (heh, how many of my threads start out like that??
Thanks elsewhere and rebel8, I appreciate the help.
Now c'mon JWD, there's gotta be more people out there who can help me out here!! Please?? Don't make me beg!!
-Becka :)
edit: i changed the subject of this thread, just to be more specific and get more attention.. .
hi guys, .
ok, so i was talking to my jw boyfriend a few days ago (heh, how many of my threads start out like that??
Thanks for the links, rebel8, I'll make good use of those.
You may want to mention the WTS tobacco stock thing too.
Ooo, I remember reading something about this on another thread, can someone point the way to some good solid information about this??
-Becka :)
edit: i changed the subject of this thread, just to be more specific and get more attention.. .
hi guys, .
ok, so i was talking to my jw boyfriend a few days ago (heh, how many of my threads start out like that??
EDIT: I changed the Subject of this thread, just to be more specific and get more attention.
Hi guys,
OK, so I was talking to my JW boyfriend a few days ago (heh, how many of my threads start out like that??) and we were just chatting about anything and everything, same as always, and we got on the topic of his brother. His younger brother has been camping out with him while he started a new job, and will be moving into his own place early in March, and lately, he's been coming back to my boyfriend's apartment smelling of cigarette smoke and chewing gum.
Ahh, so the JW brother has taken up smoking, very interesting. Of course, I already know that smoking is banned (haven't JWs been disfellowshipped for smoking in the past??), but I don't let my boyfriend know this, and I take the, "ugh, smoking is a nasty habit", route. Of course, my boyfriend agrees, he's a non-smoker and doesn't like the habit, either, and he says, "Hey, did you know that Witnesses have a rule against smoking??".
Aha, I already knew that, but I play dumb about it all, just to see what he thinks. "Really??", I say, and he says, "Yeah, you know how the Mormons aren't allowed to have caffeine and other addictive substances like that?? Well, Witnesses aren't allowed to smoke.". So I say, "Well, what about alcohol, are you guys allowed to drink??". "In moderation," he replies, "And if you became an alcoholic, the Witnesses would probably try to help you.". (At that comment, I rolled my eyes.)
So back to the smoking bit, I say, "Well, what if your brother really is smoking, what does that mean??", and he says, "Well, he's breaking a rule", and that's it. No comments on how a JW could get into serious trouble for breaking WTS rules or anything like that, no comments on how strict JWs are with their rules, nothing. Granted, I don't think his brother is baptized, but that's not the point - my point is, what does my boyfriend know about WTS rules and the policies about disfellowshipping??
So, ladies and gentlemen of JWD, I need some help. I'm going to use this opportunity, the fact that his brother is smoking and that it's against JW rules, to bring some other WTS rules to my boyfriend's attention and see what his opinions are about them. I'm not going to attack the WTS or try to make him believe what I do, I just want to get his thoughts on some of these things. Does he think that the WTS rules are insane and overly strict and extreme, or does he agree with them, or is he even aware of them?? I plan to bring it up in conversation by saying something like, "Hey, you really got me thinking when you said that smoking is banned, so I was curious and looked up what else is banned..." I'm a naturally curious person, I'm always learning and researching, he'll believe me if I say that I just looked this up because he piqued my interest with mention of the smoking ban.
So here's what I'm looking for - some good links and information on WTS rules and what's banned, and some evidence from the WTS to back them up, and some information on disfellowshipping/shunning practices and rules. Scriptural evidence would also be appreciated, if it relates to the rules (my boyfriend has a habit of supporting the WTS by saying, "Well, it says *insert rule here* in the Bible, that's why we do it", and I'd like to be able to mention what doesn't exist in the Bible - I'm sure God didn't specifically ban cigarette smoking, for example).
The catch is that I need information that isn't from an "apostate" source, I need to get this directly from the horse's mouth - the WTS and it's publications. A list of rules and bans from a non-WTS source would work, but then I need to support that with WTS publications. I've mentioned certain things to my boyfriend before that let on that I'd been researching, and the first thing he said was, "Where did you read that?? What are your sources??", so if I mention something, I'd like to be able to point out the WTS references that back it up so that he can't argue that I'm reading anti-WTS sources that just want to make Witnesses look bad.
So guys, any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. I'm sure there are other threads on the topic of WTS bans and disfellowshipping, so if anyone can point those out to me, I'd appreciate it. Also, anyone have a link for a Quotes mirror?? That would be immensely helpful, too - after all, can a JW debate quotes taken directly from their own publications?? And if anyone has any other information or suggestions that would be pertinent to my research, I'd be eternally grateful. And if you have any tips on how to be extra-careful with bringing this topic up to my boyfriend, I welcome your input.
Thanks in advance for your help, I really appreciate it. You guys (and girls!!) are the best!!
-Becka :)
i was out last night with my friend that i went to church with a couple weeks ago (he's presbyterian) and i asked him if he had been to church lately and he told me that him and his family went to the main church in town instead of his little one in the country.
then he told me that his aunt and cousins got up and left the service because it was a woman minister??
so i asked if they were allowed to have women ministers and he said no that it is against the bible ..."the bible clearly says that women are not to have authority in chuch/congregations..." .
I don't know much about the Bible, but there seems to be lots in there about women "staying in their place" and being quiet and letting men run things, I just don't know the quotes. The Catholic Church, for one, doesn't allow female priests, either, and I'm sure there's lots of other churches that won't ordain women.
I'm Anglican, and we have lots of female ministers. The minister in my home parish is a lovely Scottish lady from Edinburgh who prefers to go by her first name - we call her "Reverend Linda". The Anglican Church has been ordaining women for something like 40 years, no problem (and now, the Anglican Church is even ordaining openly-gay ministers and allows same-sex marriage, we're a pretty progressive bunch, I guess).
I'm sure there's lots of people here who can reference Scriptural passages about women and subservience and how they're not allowed to hold any position in a congregation, etc., I've seen those references on this board before.
-Becka :)