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The best defense is to shun them. I don't need to waste my energies more than I have too. The letter really helped me though, sorry for the cursing. Thanks guys. I would have busted some caps if it wasn't for you guys. Much Love from Iran to where you may be. -nIGHT tEMPLAR

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Brooklyn reorganization tied to "Deliverance at Hand" District Convention?

by truthseeker in

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a few days ago, someone posted an email that was sent by a sister in bethel.. a follow up post gives some more info on the reorganization in brooklyn bethel and the district convention theme.. any comments?.

http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1247&st=0.

the brooklyn move is fascinating, to be sure.. .

What-A-Coincidence

THe C.O. who I talked to in the past couple of days mentioned to me that the thrust of the upcoming assembly is that (start yawning) "we are in the last days - this is it." and that the GB is having a hard time getting the message to the brothers since many including elders are slowing down.

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GOING OUT IN SERVICE WITH THE CIRCUIT OVERSEER!!!

by What-A-Coincidence in

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what a privilege!!!.

so excited!!!.

praise allah!!!

What-A-Coincidence

gOOD NEWS ALLAH IS GREAT

ELDER BADGERED ME ABOUT NEEDING GOING TO THE COs TALK ... I SAID I WOULD MAKE IT. I DID NOT MAKE IT. HE CALLS AND SAYS HOW I HAVE BEEN. I SAID GOOD (IN AN UPBEAT WAY). HE MENTIONS NOTHING ABOUT THE MEETING. ALLAH IS GREAT. HE MENTIONS THAT THE BOOK STUDY WILL BE RELOCATED.

ALLAH IS GREAT. PRAISE ALLAH.

KNIGHT TEMPLAR - ILUMINITI

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Jesus' Chromosones

by PopeOfEruke in

all the ads for da vinci code and opus dei whatever got me thinking about the whole jesus-mary thing, and what genes jesus had.

how was mary impregnated anyhow?

the wt teaches that the big j turned jesus (or michael??

What-A-Coincidence

i started reading the DVC today ... here are some interesting excerpts. If interested pm me.

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"Moreover, Jesus as a married man makes infinitely more sense than our standard biblical view of Jesus as a bachelor."
"Why?" Sophie asked.
"Because Jesus was a Jew," Langdon said, taking over while Teabing searched for his book, "and the social decorum during that time virtually forbid a Jewish man to be unmarried. According to Jewish custom, celibacy was condemned, and the obligation for a Jewish father was to find a suitable wife for his son. If Jesus were not married, at least one of the Bible’s gospels would have mentioned it and offered some explanation for His unnatural state of bachelorhood."

"These are photocopies of the Nag Hammadi and Dead Sea scrolls, which I mentioned earlier," Teabing said. "The earliest Christian records. Troublingly, they do not match up with the gospels in the Bible." Flipping toward the middle of the book, Teabing pointed to a passage. "The Gospel of Philip is always a good place to start." Sophie read the passage:
And the companion of the Saviour is Mary Magdalene. Christ loved her more than all the disciples and used to kiss her often on her mouth. The rest of the disciples were offended by it and expressed disapproval. They said to him, "Why do you love her more than all of us?"

And the companion of the Saviour is Mary Magdalene. Christ loved her more than all the disciples and used to kiss her often on her mouth. The rest of the disciples were offended by it and expressed disapproval. They said to him, "Why do you love her more than all of us?"

"Au contraire."

Teabing smiled, pointing to the first line. "As any Aramaic scholar will tell you, the word companion, in those days, literally meant spouse."

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CIRCUIT ASSEMBLY FOOD TICKETS (PIC)

by garybuss in

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wonder if i can get a refund .

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THIS THREAD WAS ENJOYABLE. BROUGHT BACK MEMORIES. DANISHES ALWAYS ROCKED. SODAS SUCKED. ACTUALLY AS A KID, I LOOKED FORWARD TO THE ASS EMBLIES FOR THE FREE PHYSICAL FOOD. THE SPIRITUAL FOOD WAS POISONED.

xLemming

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My own Mother's Day Thread...

by TresHappy in

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for everyone out there who's celebrating:.

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OUR WITNESS FAMILY CELEBRATED MOTHERS DAY BY GOING OUT TO DINNER. SEEMS LIKE JEHOVAH APPROVED CAUSE WE HAVE NO FEELINGS OF GUILT. THEN AGAIN THEY HAD NO IDEA THAT WAS A MOTHERS DAY DINNER.

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FOLLOW UP CONVERSTION C.O. ELDER - THE $HIT WILL HIT THE FAN

by What-A-Coincidence in

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dear jwd staff and comp., .

thank you so much for your replies.

they will be helpful.

What-A-Coincidence

Thanks Audesapere

this posts seems balanced. I guess I am going through an emotional turmoil. These usually don't last which is good. It's that these past 2 days have been rough so that is why all these drunken posts

willyloman

Re: wanting to leave jw org

Post 1218 of 2295
since 19-Jun-03

I'll add my two cents here, as a former longtime elder who was a real student of the WTS' rules of order: Don't DA yourself and don't write any letters to them, ever.

Instead, start missing meetings and FS and find some "cover" for your frequent absences. Some sort of poor health works, but "depression" is even better (be sure to say you're being treated by a doctor and also add that you prefer not to talk about it in any detail).

Depression scares the hell out of most elders, because they have absolutely no idea what to do about it. Oh, sure, the WTS has printed lots of articles, but when you read them it's clearly going to be a lot of work to babysit, oops, I mean "console" a depressed soul. And this kind of social work is something the vast majority of elders work hard to avoid. The rank and file will keep their distance, too.

The most important advice to faders would be to remember that the REASON for fading is to buy yourself time to develop a new circle of friends and other interests or hobbies so that when you are no longer part of the JW congregation, you have something to do with your time... and someone to do it with. This is critical. Because you can never count on a long-term fade working the way you plan. Some on this forum have faded and not been bothered by any elders for many years, but they are still looking over their shoulder. It's best to assume you will one day be hunted down and DF'd because you spoke out to someone who is still a JW or they saw your Christmas tree through the window, or something. Your goal in fading is to get to the point where you just don't care what they do, and that will come in time. By then it won't matter.

Many of the posts I read here are from people who feel they want to "get even" with the WTS and that they can do that by firing off an F You letter that will really nail them and their screwy doctrines to the wall. No chance. They read the first few lines to establish where your head's at, then they scan the rest of the letter until they get to the part that says "take my name off the list" or some other indication that you have DA'd yourself, and then they read the announcement to the congo. The letter gets locked in a file drawer, inside a sealed envelope, where it is never seen again. No one will ever read it.

Having said that, and not wanting to be dogmatic, there are some cases where a DA letter is the best way to get the elders off your back. In some cases, it's too late to fade and you're being hounded by the elders who "just want to come and visit and offer some encouragement" when you know very well they are aware you have a boy/girl friend or are attending the church down the street.

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Hello all; helping those in the org

by stapler99 in

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i've been lurking for a while so thought i'd introduce myself.

i'm in my late teens and left the jws just before i left home.

i used to know what absolute belief was, but never got baptised because i didn't feel any love for god.

What-A-Coincidence

DAMN! THAT WAS A GOOD 1ST POST STAPLER99

ACTUALLY YOU GOT ME TO THINK

lot of JWs I know are reasonable people, as long as you don't challenge their beliefs

that was me

"What else is there outside the truth?" The "To whom shall we go" phenomenon

I was in Bethel and that is a well known phrase

If there is some way to build up a life outside the organisation then breaking away is much more of a possibility

My road to recovery was when in Bethel I came across Anthony Robbin's book "Awaken the Giant Within". Crap!!! I read that during morning worship/during bethel family wt study whenever i went. That book helps you to understand why you believe what you believe and that you can change/alter your beliefs. That book helped me to unload a lot of mental crap that the org drills in you. The book was the wedge that helped me start my recovery and JWD was KEY realize that I was not alone.

Few have the moral nobility to do what is hard, to strike out and stand up for one's beliefs

I take that as a compliment. Thanks. I usually stood out for my right winged comments about the Jah's Org but always reverted to being neutral so that I would not get the boot. I got the boot later.

And then there is nostalgia; a sadness, but the sort a soldier may feel at the end of a war, when he is hanging up his gun and his military uniform. Emotional attachment is possible to even misery and death. Hello all!

Ain't that the truth.

looking forward to more of your posts :-)

nIGHT Templar