hi happy man,
so what if he started out a mason, or didn't start out a mason???
he ended up claiming to be god's mouthpiece>>>>> duet 18:20
i find this on unother board and i think it proof realy good that russel dont was a mason.. "there is no evidence that the 1913 discourse was an attempt to lay an issue at rest.
there is no evidence that it was.
thought that russell was a mason at the time.
hi happy man,
so what if he started out a mason, or didn't start out a mason???
he ended up claiming to be god's mouthpiece>>>>> duet 18:20
hi ..........just thought i'd drop in and say hello.
looking forward to the dateline show.
cowboy..........cassie...........xena..........thanks for the emails.
BOO!!!!...........
who's got the upper hand at the moment, the watchtower org or the apostates.. when you first leave and find out there are many other like you , you can feel like the watchtower org is crumbling.but many have been out for years and the watchtower has continued to grow.. are efforts by apostates working?.
or is the watchtower able to easily counter them?.
do most leave the org due to efforts by those who have already walked out , or do most find their own way?.
i don't think they are growing at all anymore(i don't believe any of their statistics, they are proven liars)........at best they are on a very slow decline........baptizing "children" is keeping their numbers up........also still a few undeveloped countries, where the internet information is not available.........as their members die off, there won't be the same amount of replacements.
the truth about jw history and their doctines is becoming so easily available now, all someone has to do, if they are curious or studying, is to type in "jehovah's witnesses".......and bingo......they can easily refute any jw propaganda, to where the person conducting the bible study will not even talk to them anymore.
on the other hand, what do i know?.......there is a sucker born every minute, and jws have just a much right to brainwash them as anyone else.
this is something i've been wondering about lately due to personal experiences.
my mother and stepfather (she's a jw, he is not) have been having some marital problems of late and instead of seeking out the advice of a marriage counselor or some similar specialist in the field, they have chosen to seek help through one of the elders in her congregation.
i'm completely surprised by this, yet i know i shouldn't be.
it's all in the brainwashing program..... it's very effective.
when they have problems, they go to the ones who are causing them the problem in the first place, for more advice.....and as their lives get worse and worse, they go more and more......till they finally wake up, and get out,,,,,,,or commit suicide, cause they think god must hate them.
"[jehovah's witnesses] have some ... very well-designed articles telling parents how to teach their children to deal with the molestation situation .
and in ways so that the child will feel secure about coming home and reporting it."dr.
rodney stark, professor of sociology.
they do encourage the children to report child molesting......it's true.....
the problem is that they are encouraged to report it to unqualified elders, too,,,,,,who then either mentally molest them again, or cover it up, to protect their pedophile friends.......and then punish the victims if they won't go along with it.
so they "can" produce literature that tells children to report abuse.
that's not the issue.........the gov body is very good at side-stepping the issues.
i see 1.16 million witnesses world-wide.
the number of remnant will still be around 8000. the generation that saw 1914 will all be dead.
food shortages will just about be ending and the society will use the "earthquakes" logic to explain this.
here that fred?.......you are destined to be on the gov body!!!
see that???........alot of people here recognize that you have all the qualities to be a highly respected member of the gov body.
you better start practicing making up "new lies".......errr,,,, i mean new light.
i borrowed another tape recording from my mothers church.. in this sermon the pastor described how the jews were obsessed with their temple.
so much so that they really started worshipping the temple itself.
one obsession was how clean the temple had to stay.
hi happy man!!!
are you still an elder in jw congregation?......or have you figured out that claiming to be god's mouthpiece carries the death penalty?.....deut 18;20
i borrowed another tape recording from my mothers church.. in this sermon the pastor described how the jews were obsessed with their temple.
so much so that they really started worshipping the temple itself.
one obsession was how clean the temple had to stay.
hi blind fool,
i don't believe the jw organization ever was god's temple........so that's why i think anyone who trys to clean it out won't have much success.....i personally would love to shut down the whole religion,,,,,,but i don't believe god would help me, it would just be my own doing.
i have not been on the site for awhile.
i have been really busy with school and work.
but now things are calmed down a bit, and i am back... so hi again to everyone i missed, and also to anyone new.
hi college girl,
why don't you give a nice talk, because that's important information.....you should be careful who you associate with!
just outline the principals of finding good friends, never mentioning jws.........if it's clear, some of the young ones who aren't completely brainwashed will think about it, and possibly realize that most of their jw friends are bad association.........
i must say that as a neutral scientific observer of this site--it seems that things are kind of one-sided here.
i thought this was a board with both devout jws and ex-jws on it.
on further reflection it appears that this medium of communication should probably be called ex-jw.com.
hi eutapro,
we have open minds,......that's why we left the jw cult.
their "truth" does not stand up to scrutiny........jws are welcome to show us how we are wrong, but if you read any jw comments, you will see that they cannot defend their believes without telling lies.
do you call it "one sided" if a professional fighter knocks out his apponent in the first round?.......should it be a tie?