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  Circut Assembly 2006 Notes, Part 1

  by drew sagan in

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  much is what we are used to hearing, but i felt it was worth it for everybody to know.

  theme: .

  clothe yourselves with the new personality -col 3:10 .

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  deeskis

  2:55 – Discipline Yourself to Meditate Properly.
  
  Discipline is something we should all want. We need spiritual conversation. People in the world don't have discipline. 3 Points. 1. Meditation draws us closer to Jehovah. We have to think. People in territory know some about the Bible but they don't really know. We need DEEP medition. When we read personalize the account. Picture yourself there. 2. New Personality, it will change us. Refine ourselves 3. Meditation helps us to comment at meetings. Not word for word out of the paragraph.
  
  They really stressed hard in this talk about how we need to visualise the account in the Bible. I feel they stress this more than critical thinking and REAL STUDY because they don't want anybody actually getting any ideas. They tell them just to visualise the account, keep their study simple.

  Whoa!!

  have i got confused or was there new light on this that i never heard about.

  I thought meditation was not allowed because it left your mind open to being taken over by the devil

  I remember my auntie (spiritually weak at the time!) doing yoga, and my parents being negative about that because it involved meditation!?!

  or is this a different type of meditation?

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  I went to church yesterday...

  by mrsjones5 in

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  omg i love going to church, the music, the people, the sermon, the pastors, the childcare (sunday school .

  josie

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  deeskis

  Hmm

  Over the years since fading i've been to a few different churches, Baptist, Anglican, Pentecostal, I enjoy the services, usually get something out of it but still find it hard to committ. (the pentcostal had me a bit scared, they have a sunday afternoon service for families which is more reserved, although still full on, two hours, the singing is fantastic, but the evening service is more way out, and freaked me out a bit!)

  the pastor waited outside my house a few weeks later when I didn't come back (small town, everyone knows everyone else!) and told me that the Lord had wonderful plans for my life. I agreed, and said I had wonderful plans for my life too. He saw my husband at work later and said that he was sorry that maybe he had scared me away).

  but the thing is that as much as i want to believe that there is something there, I still don't know. It seems crazy after all these years and how old I am, you'd think I'd have my act together by now! But it's not as if I agonise over it all the time, I get on with life, and enjoy life, enjoy spending time with my gorgeous kids and husband, and live life to the fullest. (sometimes so full that it's stop the world I want to get off!)

  I've told God if he exists that it's too hard, at the judging he'll read my heart and know that my witness upbringing has made this conflict and that I'm genuine. And if he doesn't like that then I wouldn't want to be part of it anyway. You know if my husband believed, and wanted to go to church then it would be easy to go because it is "nice"!, but he doesn't so that's that.

  I'm dithering now.......

  best wishes everyone

  D:)

  p.s. LT I miss your hat and think you need a new one, how about a "see you Jimmy" cap?! ;)
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  Nearly out....

  by jambon in

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  guys, im deliriously happy that im nearly out.. my mind is now free of morbid, gloomy thoughts of the future.

  its a freedom that is indeed priceless.. i now feel less need to drink (although im having a beer to celebrate just now)!!

  i have been for some time atheist, i doubt it will ever change.

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  deeskis

  great to hear that you got help and support. hope it continues to go well for you and the family.

  best wishes

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  Just want to gain insight on the overall attitude of most on here.

  by stillAwitness in

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  i am on here a lot.

  leafing through posts, taking the time out to read individuals' profiles, their topics.

  i like to gain insight, get perspective on what it is like to be "on the other side" i guess you can say.

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  deeskis

  Stilla

  Elizabeth Kubler-Ross wrote the book "on death and dying". it's available on amazon. it was used a lot during my nursing training, a few years back now.......

  but the basic ideas are relevant to any type of grief and loss.

  best wishes

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  For those of you born in.....

  by lonelysheep in

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  i want to say how brave i think all of you are for stepping out of the jw's, even if it's hidden (those of you still going).

  whenever witnesses would knock on our door, i always felt they were ok and just worshipping god in the way they felt was right.

  i never knew it came with soooo much stress and shunning if one does not comply.

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  deeskis

  To think, to question, and to step outside the box of the WT and really live in the real world takes a lot of strength.

  sometimes it would take more strength to live a lie
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  My D/f appeal meeting went amazingly, but the still want to d/f me

  by jwfacts in

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  sorry how long this is but i found the meeting very exciting.

  the short version is i said directly that i do not believe in the wts, feel being d/f is unfair on my jw family so asked them to just leave me alone.

  it didn't work.

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  deeskis

  Glad you feel good about the meeting. i guess that really is the main thing.

  you previously said that the chairman of the judicial committee was the one who started you on your path of discovery. did you explain that, and thank him :)

  you also said that they would not answer your questions as they said they were here to judge you, not answer questions. it sounds like at the meeting yesterday they just laughed everything off !?!

  so now you have to gather your defenses for the next round:-

  the personal response to loved ones when your d'f'ing is announced. hope it goes well for you.

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  p.s. did you crack open the fifth leg last night ;)
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  Just want to gain insight on the overall attitude of most on here.

  by stillAwitness in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am on here a lot.

  leafing through posts, taking the time out to read individuals' profiles, their topics.

  i like to gain insight, get perspective on what it is like to be "on the other side" i guess you can say.

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  deeskis

  you know i faded over 20 years ago, and had long since resolved my anxst. however finding this site by chance recently has reignited some issues, especially since i still have family involved in the org.

  it's like Dr Elizabeth Kubler-Ross identified in her book"on death and dying", she identified 5 stages of grief.

  • Denial
  • Anger
  • Bargaining
  • Depression
  • Acceptance

  people can move backwards and forwards from one stage to another until they are fully healed.

  i think this forum is great, because there are people at all stages, supporting people through the stage that they are at. others who have been there and understand.

  Regards

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  Can a divorcee remarry scripturally?

  by rootofallevil in

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  i have been visiting this board for the last six months and it has opened my eyes!.

  i feel like i was tricked into this religion - since 1975.

  i would like to say thanks to all who post on this forum.

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  deeskis

  it has OPENED my eyes!. I feel like I was tricked into this religion - since 1975.

  I would like to say THANKS to all who post on this forum. The information has been extremely valuable. I have shared everything that I have read with my best freind who also has OPENED his eyes and my family, wife and son who are more and more accepting all this.

  join the club!, and welcome to the forum. although i left the witnesses many years ago, i came across this discussion site by chance some weeks ago and have found some great information and support.

  best wishes

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  Lifesavers story . . . Jehovah's Witness love and honesty . . . missing

  by garybuss in

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  never have i been more aware of the lengths that the watch tower society was willing to go to maintain their donations and their control of us witnesses than i was at the district assembly in bismarck nd in 1975. this is where i began to doubt my acceptance level of the doctrine called the doctrine called the "theocratic war strategy" (tws).

  that is, the viewpoint that says it is all right to lie to jehovah's enemies.

  (see aid and insight under lie).

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  deeskis

  thanks Gary, appreciated reading your story in freeminds

  seen it happen many times........

  to be honest it does happen every religion, association, walk of life.

  the difference is that these people are supposed to be "god's chosen ones".......

  ha! don't get me started

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  Shaking my head, JW's talking about Paradise

  by DevonMcBride in

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  they have no idea how brainwashed and cult-like they appear to be when us "worldly" people read stuff like this.. http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewthread&entryid=10581786&groupid=100816827&adtopicid=27&mytoken=edca818c-e6e4-bec5-e18a6031a7aee4cb51834383

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  deeskis

  "yeah its so cool to think about it, like also, will Jehovah let us travel to other galaxies. He might just let us all use our full capacity of inteligence and stuff like that so its something interesting to think about."

  smiles, a sad little smile - sliding down the giraffes neck was my favourite thing to talk about in conversations about the new system when i was a little un. until i grew up a bit and started questioning!

  does this mean that "he" has not allowed us to use our full capacity of inteligence and stuff like that mean time? ...........well maybe some of us. and if that is something that "he" has ot allowed, then why not, that doesn't seem fair does it. or did Adam and Eve have 100% inteligence using capabilities, but as a punishment we've all been cut down to 10%?? What the!?! haven't heard that one before.

  By the way, how do you highlight quotes in the buff boxes that most people use?

  regards D