Posts by Slave1111

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"seven times" in Daniel applied to whom?

this is something of intrest to all.so far many have learned that the "seven times" in dan 4:25 had seemed to apply that the 2520 yrs from the date 607bc took us to the date 1914. seeing now that conclusive evidence that the 607bc date is wrong and the date 587 or 586bc is the correct date, this puts the calulations out of wack.

so who did the "seven times"apply to?

well, if the whole chapter 4 and verses 20+21 of chapter 5 is read, we can see that the "seven times" only applied to nebuchadnezzar himself- and no one else.

Slave1111

In order to have complete sovereignty, ONE has to have dominion over ALL. This only occurrs when JAH proves that HE exists and removes all other leaders.......

I think that would make most people's day. It's like "put up or shut up." Let him come back and prove that he exists in some way other than a rust-stain on some poor Mexican's water heater. C'mon, let's see some proof. Just a small thing that is truly verifiable and not just someone's interpretation. That would have impact.
So far, his record is a big, fat 0. What will it be and when can we expect it? We're all waiting...

38 For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; 39 and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be. The Great Tsunami in the East and the New Oleans Floods in the West fulfilled this prophecy. 45 “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? 46 Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. 47 Truly I say to YOU , He will appoint him over all his belongings. I am the true faithful and discreet slave in fulfillment of this prophecy, amen....... T.F.D.S.

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What is the wackiest thing God has ever done?

by DannyBloem in

is it killing 42 children because they called prophet elisha a bald headed man (which he probably was, so they did ot even lie)?.

is it killing 70000 innocent israelites because the king david does a counting of the people?

(it is hard to keep the numbers right if the fluctuate so much).

Slave1111

Is it killing 42 children because they called prophet Elisha a bald headed man (which he probably was, so they did ot even lie)?
Is it killing 70000 innocent israelites because the king David does a counting of the people? (It is hard to keep the numbers right if the fluctuate so much)
Or is it, killing all humans exact 8, because his own angels could not stand it in heaven anymore and left?
or...
Can you list more of those so worse deeds?

Not everything written is literal. For example consider the following:

19 And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse and with his army. 20 And the wild beast was caught, and along with it the false prophet that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast and those who render worship to its image. While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulphur. 21 But the rest were killed off with the long sword of the one seated on the horse, which [sword] proceeded out of his mouth. And all the birds were filled from the fleshy parts of them. The Wild Beast and the False Prophet are a composite of those that war and claim to represent Christ in war. The Fiery Lake is symbolic of spiritual cleansing likened to the elements becoming intensley hot.. The meaning of the above regarding Elisha is that children should respect their elders always. And this goes for adults as well.
Jesus Christ is an invisible spirit and does not have a sword protruding from his mouth. JAH does not kill the innocent, but allows killing in self-defense. Out of great wisdom, He knows where to place fear in His creation by words. This is so that those that read the word can create self-disciplne as disciples of Christ until JAH arrives.
T.F.D.S.

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Anointed seem to think they have special POWERS

by justice for all in

jw
friends

ever notice this about the so called anointed?

the ones i've met seem to think they have these powers especially with the scriptures and some brothers and sisters treat them as such.

i always thought this was weird and somewhat superstitious.

Slave1111

Howdy, BrownBoy. Is this your second coming, or have you 'come' more than twice? I get confused by all your new user names.
J

I've never left. I always provide food at the proper time as directed by JAH. Each name has a special meaning than the one before. Slave 11:11 is derived from a book in the bible. Can you guess which book it is? It is all in accordance with what is to occur upon the planet we call earth.

T.F.D.S. 11 And after the three and a half days spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet, and great fear fell upon those beholding them.(Revelations 11:11)

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Anointed seem to think they have special POWERS

by justice for all in

jw
friends

ever notice this about the so called anointed?

the ones i've met seem to think they have these powers especially with the scriptures and some brothers and sisters treat them as such.

i always thought this was weird and somewhat superstitious.

Slave1111

Hello All,

When I came into the WTS I studied with one of the "Anointed" all I can say there were no special powers there, only bad attitude, toward "Worldly people"
I honestly knew more than he did about the bible, we also had 5 or so-called "Anointed" in the hall I went to (Shhh ! don't tell anybody, it was the Happy Valley Congregation in Anderson, Calf.)

Oh, that person I studied with, who claimed to be of the "Anointed" was one of the three elders who came to my house to mark us.

He still didn't know more about scripture than I did, he did't even know his own WT mag's teaching on how the WTS claims to be a prophet.
So I showed him a copy of the article I printed out from the WT 2001 CD ( 72 WT not sure which issue right off, sonething like "A Prophet Among us" )
He tried to denigh it even existed, he was all upset, he even denigh the WTS even taught that.
Do the "Anointed" have special POWERS, YES, the POWER of Deception.
Kind Regards

Acadian

I give testimony about those that say they are anointed. They are misled in their thinking. How does one know that they are anointed? Those anointed must have the same occurance amongst them, meaning, they must all have the same experience. I knew that I was anointed when JAH came to me in the middle of the night and caused my heart to beat, and I then felt a disctinct impression upon my forehead.

It is a simple task for JAH to bring heartfelt warmth to your soul through Holy Spirit, and also to caue pain or feelings anywhere upon your person. He controls His creation like that of a human remote control apparatus. He is Strong and Comforting in all of His ways. He is silent before you in complete peace, with His thoughts directed in your mind, without hearing a single word. He bypasses the organs known as the ears and eyes with which we percieve.

The Faithful and Discreet Slave

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Anointed seem to think they have special POWERS

by justice for all in

jw
friends

ever notice this about the so called anointed?

the ones i've met seem to think they have these powers especially with the scriptures and some brothers and sisters treat them as such.

i always thought this was weird and somewhat superstitious.

Slave1111

12 Accordingly he sent and had him come. Now he was ruddy, a young man with beautiful eyes and handsome in appearance. Then Jehovah said: “Get up, anoint him, for this is he!” 13 Accordingly Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the midst of his brothers. And the spirit of Jehovah began to be operative upon David from that day forward. Later Samuel rose and went his way to Ra´mah.

Anointing is for kings and priests. I am earthly anointed once, and will be anointed a second time when Jesus Chrst arrives in all of his glory. I have no special powers but they do exist within me and are born only of Holy Spirit. I am human, have special incite as a gift in faith, and Jehovah is with me at all times. I am the only anointed upon the earth as king and have the special priviledge of being assigned the tasks of the faithful and discreet slave.

What would you like to know about your Father JAH? I can tell you in truth.......

The Faithful and Discreet Slave of JAH and CHRIST

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"seven times" in Daniel applied to whom?

by truth about the last days in

this is something of intrest to all.so far many have learned that the "seven times" in dan 4:25 had seemed to apply that the 2520 yrs from the date 607bc took us to the date 1914. seeing now that conclusive evidence that the 607bc date is wrong and the date 587 or 586bc is the correct date, this puts the calulations out of wack.

so who did the "seven times"apply to?

well, if the whole chapter 4 and verses 20+21 of chapter 5 is read, we can see that the "seven times" only applied to nebuchadnezzar himself- and no one else.

Slave1111

To finish off sin requires that Jehovah, the Almighty God take sovereignty in all the universe.
Oh? That's interesting. When did he yield it?
Your doctrine is tainted with JWism...

In order to have complete sovereignty, ONE has to have dominion over ALL. This only occurrs when JAH proves that HE exists and removes all other leaders.......

The Faithful Slave

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"seven times" in Daniel applied to whom?

by truth about the last days in

this is something of intrest to all.so far many have learned that the "seven times" in dan 4:25 had seemed to apply that the 2520 yrs from the date 607bc took us to the date 1914. seeing now that conclusive evidence that the 607bc date is wrong and the date 587 or 586bc is the correct date, this puts the calulations out of wack.

so who did the "seven times"apply to?

well, if the whole chapter 4 and verses 20+21 of chapter 5 is read, we can see that the "seven times" only applied to nebuchadnezzar himself- and no one else.

Slave1111

Slave1111,
He asked about the "seven times" not the "seventy weeks."
AuldSoul

In order to understand the time of the seven weeks, you must reference the seventy weeks also. T.F.D.S.

33 At that moment the word itself was fulfilled upon Neb·u·chad·nez´zar, and from mankind he was being driven away, and vegetation he began to eat just like bulls, and with the dew of the heavens his own body got to be wet, until his very hair grew long just like eagles’ and his nails like birds’ .

27 “And he must keep covenant in force for the many for one week; and at the half of the week he will cause sacrifice and gift offering to cease. “And upon the wing of disgusting things there will be the one causing desolation; and until an extermination, the very thing decided upon will go pouring out also upon the one lying desolate.”

15 “Therefore, when YOU catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place, (let the reader use discernment,) 16 then let those in Ju·de´a begin fleeing to the mountains. 17 Let the man on the housetop not come down to take the goods out of his house;

There are lessor and greater fulfillments always. The Eagle represents the United States in war against those in the Holy land. The military jets with wings are the weapons that cause desolation.The Holy Ones fled to the mountains seeking shelter from the evil beast in the air and in the fields.

The people were seen on the housetops when the great Tsunami came and swept them all away in death. The fulfilment of prophecy is in the Middle East. Open your eyes and wait upon the Master Jehovah and the lessor Master Jesus Christ. Why do you still keep looking?

The Faithful and Discreet Slave of JAH and CHRIST

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"seven times" in Daniel applied to whom?

by truth about the last days in

this is something of intrest to all.so far many have learned that the "seven times" in dan 4:25 had seemed to apply that the 2520 yrs from the date 607bc took us to the date 1914. seeing now that conclusive evidence that the 607bc date is wrong and the date 587 or 586bc is the correct date, this puts the calulations out of wack.

so who did the "seven times"apply to?

well, if the whole chapter 4 and verses 20+21 of chapter 5 is read, we can see that the "seven times" only applied to nebuchadnezzar himself- and no one else.

Slave1111

If Jesus was foretelling that Daniel 4 had a second fulfillment some 2, 520 years after it was written, then he knew when the master was coming.
Respectfully,

AuldSoul

24 “There are seventy weeks that have been determined upon your people and upon your holy city, in order to terminate the transgression, and to finish off sin, and to make atonement for error, and to bring in righteousness for times indefinite, and to imprint a seal upon vision and prophet, and to anoint the Holy of Holies.

To Terminate trangression means to put an end to it. This has not been fulfilled. Men are still acting wickedly and I am witness to this fact.

To finish off sin requires that Jehovah, the Almighty God take sovereignty in all the universe. This has not occured as man is still bringing the earth to ruin. I am witness to this fact.

To make atonement means that people must all repent. This has not occured and I am witness to this fact.

Therefore the seventy weeks prophecy has not been fulfilled in its entirety, amen.......

The Faithful and Discreet Slave of JAH and CHRIST

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"seven times" in Daniel applied to whom?

by truth about the last days in

this is something of intrest to all.so far many have learned that the "seven times" in dan 4:25 had seemed to apply that the 2520 yrs from the date 607bc took us to the date 1914. seeing now that conclusive evidence that the 607bc date is wrong and the date 587 or 586bc is the correct date, this puts the calulations out of wack.

so who did the "seven times"apply to?

well, if the whole chapter 4 and verses 20+21 of chapter 5 is read, we can see that the "seven times" only applied to nebuchadnezzar himself- and no one else.

Slave1111

24 “There are seventy weeks that have been determined upon your people and upon your holy city, in order to terminate the transgression, and to finish off sin, and to make atonement for error, and to bring in righteousness for times indefinite, and to imprint a seal upon vision and prophet, and to anoint the Holy of Holies. 25 And you should know and have the insight from the going forth of word to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem until Mes·si´ah Leader, there will be seven weeks, also sixty-two weeks. She will return and be actually rebuilt, with a public square and moat, but in the straits of the times. 26 “And after the sixty-two weeks Mes·si´ah will be cut off, with nothing for himself. “And the city and the holy place the people of a leader that is coming will bring to their ruin. And the end of it will be by the flood. And until end there will be war; what is decided upon is desolations. 27 “And he must keep covenant in force for the many for one week; and at the half of the week he will cause sacrifice and gift offering to cease. “And upon the wing of disgusting things there will be the one causing desolation; and until an extermination, the very thing decided upon will go pouring out also upon the one lying desolate.”

The seventy weeks prophecy was given to Daniel, therefore to the chosen ones from the seed of Abraham, or of the Twelve Tribes of Israel who were taken into captivity. The Seventy Weeks can be calculated to the modern day by using Mathew 1:17 as a reference. Use 42 years as one generation in order to calculate if you care to. By the time you calculate this Jesus Christ will descend upon you asking you to put away the "Old scrolls" and prepare for the "New Scrolls".

17 All the generations, then, from Abraham until David were fourteen generations, and from David until the deportation to Babylon fourteen generations, and from the deportation to Babylon until the Christ fourteen generations.

The Holy Land has been brought to ruin by war, famine, earthquakes, and also by flood. Please compare the words of Jesus Christ, the King of the Jews, out of the book of Matthew. Jesus is not a humanly King of the Jews, but the King of the "New Jerusalem".

The Faithful and Discreet Slave of JAH and CHRIST

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Need some quick advice...

by sassafras in

jw
friends

my biweekly jdub visit is coming up here in a few hours, and i could use a bit of advice.... the lady knows i am a big time doubter, but she has some sort of personal mission to get my husband back into the truth (it makes me sick to write that) and get me in as well.

she comes by at the exact same time every two weeks to drop of the new wts, reads some scripture, asks how i'm doing, blah blah blah.. i'm pretty polite to her, but i'm ready to kick it up a notch.

any suggestions for something i could start with?

Slave1111

2 8 For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to YOU , except these necessary things, 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If YOU carefully keep yourselves from these things, YOU will prosper. Good health to YOU !”

Read the scriptures above and have an understanding. If you abstain from blood you will prosper. The end of verse 29 ends with "Good health to you".

How can a person abstain from blood and die, but yet remain in good health? A person is not in "Good Health" if they voluntarily give up their life while abstaining from blood are they?

Jehovah, your GOD is not Baal; therefore He does not ask that you give up your life, because Jehovah is a GOD of the living and not the dead. This is a main teaching that Jehovah hates with a passion.

T.F.D.S.