Posts by skeeter1

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"BIG" POINTBLANK ARTICLE "DROWNING IN HEMOGLOBIN"

by DannyHaszard in

commentary and opinion by chris stevenson www.voiceoffreedom.com

drowning in hemoglobin:

can new blood article narrow gap between religious doctrine and doctors.

skeeter1

Wow, I could not have done that any better.

Skeeter

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Is there anyone at Bethel who knows Greek or Hebrew?

by VM44 in

fred franz was known to have some knowledge of the greek and hebrew languages, and made use of that knowledge when he worked on the new world translation of the holy scriptures.

but he died in 1992. is there anyone at bethel today who has a knowledge of these biblicl languages?.

it would be strange if a religious book publishing organization turned out to have no one at all who could read the bible in its original languages.. does anyone know what people are currently on the watchtower's bible translation committee, and if they know the languages?.

skeeter1

No, but they can speak Pig-Latin

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What did you take with you when you left the organization?

by coffee_black in

leaving the organization, it is like packing for a journey you can choose what you take with you, and what you leave behind (other than people).

there are things i chose to take with me.

for example, i have used the sales training to my advantage over the years.

skeeter1

My dignity, which I am still discovering.

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When did you realize that you were part of a cult?

by JH in

jw
friends

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as a jw, i never thought that i was in a cult.

i thought that other religions were a cult, but not us.. what made you realize that the jw's is a cult?

skeeter1

It hit me one day in the KH. We were going over a WT/Awake magazine...and it said, "Most Christians (i.e. Witnesses) [blah, blah]." I stared at the words "Most Christians" Then, went on! I HAD NEVER BEEN ASKED MY OPINION. I HAD NEVER SEEN ANYONE ELSE ASKED AN OPINION. THERE WERE NO "VOTES" OR "SURVEYS" AS TO WHAT THE FLOCK THOUGHT.

So, how did the WTS know what "Most Witnesses" would think or do? This is top down thinking, where the WTS is telling trying to use "group pressure" and "group thinking" to tell me what to do...when they never asked the group. The WTS was controlling ALL of us, by using the words "Most Christians" and NEVER asking us what we thought.

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have elders ever been sued successfully?

by silentWatcher in

quote: what i am waiting for is one of their rank and file elders to get sued over this issue and some of the hospital liaison puppets to lose everything he owns because of it.

this point was brought up in the "big news has started" thread (and is now buried on page 3).

interesting point, and i wonder if anyone has ever heard of a case where elders have been successfully sued over judicial matters (slander / libel) or wrongful death (blood)?

skeeter1

I presume you are talking about sueing for money.

Depends on if the elder "intentionally" played a part in the deception. For example, did the elder know the Priestley quote was wrong, but continued to use it? Did the elder refrained from even mentioning hemoglobin, when he knew it was a possibility.

It also depends on whether a court would find the elder had a "duty" to his followers. I think the largest duty is from the Society to the average JW. But, in other situations, such as known child abuse, I (if I were judge) would say the elder does owe a duty to the harmed child to help that child get help...and this is especially so where there is a law that requires clergy to report to the authorities. In others, such as the blood policy, the average elder (except for the hospital liasion) does nothing but follow orders.

But, these are my off-the-cuff, answers.

Skeeter1

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IT HAS BEGUN "BIG" NEWS ON AP NEWS WIRE

by DannyHaszard in

religion today

monterey county herald, ca - 2 minutes ago .

new york - jehovah's witnesses are renowned for teaching that jesus is not god and that the world as we know it will soon end.

skeeter1

Gregor, I almost spit out my Pepsi onto the computer! Cute. WIsh it were true.

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Husband had to get a blood transfusion

by MsMcDucket in

jw
friends

hi all, i told you about the heart attack.

well, he developed complications from the anticoagulant.

he got acute gastritis and started loosing blood in his stools.

skeeter1

I would like to send your husband's doctors a copy of the Journal & State article. Please pm me with their name & address.

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IT HAS BEGUN "BIG" NEWS ON AP NEWS WIRE

by DannyHaszard in

religion today

monterey county herald, ca - 2 minutes ago .

new york - jehovah's witnesses are renowned for teaching that jesus is not god and that the world as we know it will soon end.

skeeter1

In the Tallahassee Democrat - hard copy this morning. With Kerry Louderback-Wood's picture.

Skeeter1

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IT HAS BEGUN "BIG" NEWS ON AP NEWS WIRE

by DannyHaszard in

religion today

monterey county herald, ca - 2 minutes ago .

new york - jehovah's witnesses are renowned for teaching that jesus is not god and that the world as we know it will soon end.

skeeter1

Wow! The BIG NEWS is growing.

Here's a to all of us who are getting the word out. It's what we do with the BIG NEWS. I, for one, am glad that it is not just another law review article that gets dusty in a library.

Here's two for Danny Hazzard who is a diligent bee.

Special thanks for Auldsoul, Big Tex, Lee Elder, that all wonderful Marvin, Rabbit, Big Tex and EVERYONE's wonderful comments who know "BIG NEWS" when they see it. I'll just add "Ditto" (keeping my posts short & sweet).

Skeeter1

p.s. Oprah's mighty mad that she was duped. She should talk with the families of the WTS victims...... would be a GREAT show. Anyone have a contact at Oprah?

p.s.s. Talk about a no-spin zone topic. Anyone know Bill or Greta?

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IT HAS BEGUN "BIG" NEWS ON AP NEWS WIRE

by DannyHaszard in

religion today

monterey county herald, ca - 2 minutes ago .

new york - jehovah's witnesses are renowned for teaching that jesus is not god and that the world as we know it will soon end.

skeeter1

SHORT POST YIPPEEE!!!!!! Give Barbara and Kerry a Beer! It's about what Kerry's article is about, and it's about what we do with it.
Now, let's try to save some lives. Hopefully, the WTS will either get rid of the blood doctrine all together or tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth in its literature.
LONG POST The questions that keep haunting me is, "Don't the writers at Bethel have a conscience? How could they write such lies and mislead 6,000,000 people, including children, some to death?" Perhaps they thought it was theocratic lying. But, I truly think that they did it thinking they would not get caught. I think they could not fathom that the Internet would be so powerful an exposer.

Some of the 6,000,000 will wake up and see the man behind Oz. Some of the 6,000,000 will demand better literature & treatment from the organization. Some will sue. But, for the lucky, they will have saved their own lives & left!

Some JW's live this life waiting to die. In the end, they missed this life. But Jehovah God (or whoever He is), gave us life in this broken world, meant us to live this life in order to have a relationship with Him, and with each other. Yes, this world has its faults, but it is our duty to give this world our best efforts, using our individual, natural gifts He gave to each of us. Yes, we will all die one day. But, should our death be because we believed in an organization ran by men, behind a tower, who lied to us many times over? I think every rank & file JW believes that the Truth should be sterling and without lies. The WTS shoots themselves in their own foot when they write this junk literature.

I will say a prayer tonight and hope that this news does as Kerry wishes, that it saves the most precious of lives, a child's. I will also pray that it does more.

Skeeter1