THat article is "la la" fairytale land projection. The JWs can't land adult converts anymore. Look at all the child baptisms only. Since there is little conversion of actual adults, Witchtower had to make up a fairytale article of a JW leading a perfect convert. It's kind of like magazine advertising. Present an ideal in pictures and a few words. If you can't have the perfect life, then read about it/look at pictures in a magazine. If you can't have perfect followers anymore, then read about it/look at it in pictures.
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Please help me destroy the logic of October 2014 Conversation With a Neighbor.
by kneehighmiah inhttp://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20141001/gods-kingdom-prophecy-1/.
this has got to be a joke.
anyone with half a brain would destroy the logical fallicies in this article.
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Please help me destroy the logic of October 2014 Conversation With a Neighbor.
by kneehighmiah inhttp://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20141001/gods-kingdom-prophecy-1/.
this has got to be a joke.
anyone with half a brain would destroy the logical fallicies in this article.
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"And major world events since then confirm that 1914 was indeed the year that God’s Kingdom began ruling in heaven."
And the almighty God and His Organization couldn't prevent WW1, WW2, famine, and everythign else that occurred during the passt 100 years? He's a weak God to have left the world in sleep for 1900ish years and then, when at the helm, let it fester for another 100 years.
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Stuck in JWs are in a toxic relationship
by skeeter1 inare "stuck in" jws in a toxic relationship?
this past two weeks, i've been realizing that a few of my jw relatives are very toxic people (they fit the description below).
i realized that alot of ex-jws who are stuck dealing with jws may also be in a toxic relationship.
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I did the
"T ell the person how you feel in an assertive way. Use “I” statements. For example: “When you act/do/say _____, I feel _____. What I need is _______. The reason that I am sharing my feelings and needs with you is_______ (because I love you, I want to build a healthy relationship with you etc.).”
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Stuck in JWs are in a toxic relationship
by skeeter1 inare "stuck in" jws in a toxic relationship?
this past two weeks, i've been realizing that a few of my jw relatives are very toxic people (they fit the description below).
i realized that alot of ex-jws who are stuck dealing with jws may also be in a toxic relationship.
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Got to put in in practice today!
A toxic relative of mine continually contacts me about the JW religion and Christianity. I think the person also has Obsessive Thought Disorder. I keep telling him "No". I've told it nicely, meanly, sternly, jokingly . . . he doesn't get the picture. Been going on for 10+ years. So, today, came a 7+ page letter in the snail mail, an instant message, and an e-mail . . . all about Jeruselum or something. I did my own advice. We'll see if it works. Somehow, I don't think it will with this one. He's not only toxic, he's OCD. Just a pisser to piss my day.
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Michael Sam Story on the ESPY'S. He was raised a JW.
by integ inmichael sam...the football player who came out as gay, received an award on the espy's sports award show last night.
they had a video presentation documenting his struggles and it was brought out in the video piece that as a jehovah's witness, he was prohibited from playing in organized team sports...but that he went and defiantly played anyway.
so, sam not only had to overcome the gay issue but also that of being a witness.
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Wow! I wonder if he'd come to an Apostafest?
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My frist email letter from my JW Dad. So sad...
by suavojr ini am in my early 30s and woke up to ttatt in late 2012. my dad just turned 65 in june!
wow, i never saw that being possible.. .
he just got himself a computer and was able to get internet in a remote location where he is serving as an elder with my mom (where the need is great) i was happy to see how he was able to send me a few notes saying hi and i was able to share some pictures of my wife and family, etc.. .
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What I told my dad (in a nutshell), after he kept pounding me with JW arguments.
"Dad, glad you have found the JW religion and it gives you comfort and hope. I don't want to take away any comfort or hope that you derive from it. I have carefully studied the JW religion. I have fundamental disagreements with it. I am not going to discuss with you my disagreements. When you keep trying to Witness to me, it makes me feel like you don't appreciate the time and thought I've spent on the subject. I hope that we can have a relationship fo mutual respect for each other, and allow each other to continue onwards with our spiritial journey."
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What is the "new" date JWs are "hinting" at for Armaggeddon?
by booker-t inafter the 1975 "we did not say point blank armaggeddon was coming we only suggested it might come" fiasco what is the new date jws are "hinting" at for armaggeddon?
i know now they do not point to any specific date but hint that maybe it might occur such as before 2000 the preaching work will be finished.
this is a suggestion not a prediction so they can wiggle out of this one.
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I was told by an elderly dub (80) that he might not see it in his lifetime, BUT HE WAS CERTAIN I WOULD SEE IT!!! (He yelled the last part so I capitalized it)
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37 years later, I finally got the CULT thing
by Freedom77 inhi all, just happened to come across this site again after 10 or 12 years - i see some old posts of mine under a diff username (can't reopen the account, forgot the freakin' password).
i left the borg in 1977, age 21, haven't looked back but every now and then i am amazed to find there's some old, old attitude from the jw days that i find is still clinging to my pants leg like a stray sticker.. looking over some of the posts here and some linked ex-jw sites yesterday it finally hit me - it is an effing cult.
when i was in, we were always accused of being that, so naturally we totally spouted the society's line and got all defensive, etc.
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If you can see reality, then you can change anything. Welcome, to being able to change everything.
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Stuck in JWs are in a toxic relationship
by skeeter1 inare "stuck in" jws in a toxic relationship?
this past two weeks, i've been realizing that a few of my jw relatives are very toxic people (they fit the description below).
i realized that alot of ex-jws who are stuck dealing with jws may also be in a toxic relationship.
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Are "stuck in" JWs in a toxic relationship? I think so.
This past two weeks, I've been realizing that a few of my JW relatives are very toxic people (they fit the description below). I realized that alot of ex-JWs who are stuck dealing with JWs may also be in a toxic relationship. (This may not be news to alot of you, but it was for me). Defining the problem, you can then work towards a solution with how to deal with these people.
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“A hallmark of a toxic interaction is that both people have created a conscious or unconscious story with judgment, fear or blame about the other person and boundaries that were crossed,” Tatsumi said.
Signs You’re Surrounded by a Toxic Person
Gale shared these signs:
- You’re emotionally affected by their drama
- You dread (or fear) being around them
- You’re exhausted or you feel angry while you’re with them or after your interaction
- You feel bad or ashamed about yourself
- You’re stuck in a cycle of trying to rescue, fix or care for them.
Tatsumi shared these additional signs:
- The other person doesn’t respect the word “No” as a complete sentence
- When you’re with them, you feel like you’re “walking on eggshells”
- You ignore your own values
- You emotionally “check out”
- You feel like you’re being controlled, or you’re being overly controlling.
Again, it’s important to explore your own role in the interaction. For instance, how do you compromise your own values or boundaries? Do you lash out because you feel misunderstood or not listened to? Do you withdraw because this is how you react to criticism?
What to Do With Toxic Relationships
Gale offered these suggestions for navigating toxic interactions:
- Tell the person how you feel in an assertive way. Use “I” statements. For example: “When you act/do/say _____, I feel _____. What I need is _______. The reason that I am sharing my feelings and needs with you is_______ (because I love you, I want to build a healthy relationship with you etc.).”
- Set and maintain boundaries.
- Focus on taking care of yourself.
- “Find ways to protect yourself from their unhealthy behaviors.”
- Reflect on the relationship, and consider how you’re caught in an unhealthy cycle of relating to the person. For instance, you might be making excuses for them or trying to fix them.
“If the person’s toxic behavior doesn’t change, or the relationship is just too toxic for you, send them forward in life with love and compassion, and then move forward with your life,” Gale said.
Ending the relationship may be painful, particularly if you have a long history with the person, she said. “Ultimately though, you will have created space for much healthier and far more nourishing relationships in your life.”
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Hello and Thank You!
by Vintagewife ini've been lurking here for about 3 months and decided it was time to register and become active.
i left the organization 17 years ago.
like so many of you, i had endured less than christian behavior from the strong cliches that ran our congregation.
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Vintage, you would be the humble one. Becuase, I would have punched his lights out.