"Humans have always looked for deeper meaning." exactly....
existentialist
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Why do so many people NEED to believe in a greater purpose?
by gringojj ini am an atheist.
i believe that this is the only life we have, there is nothing more.
i have no greater purpose.
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Leaving JWs Has Made Me Intolerant of Stupid Thinking - How About U?
by Seeker4 inlori (my girlfriend - a non-jw).
and i had quite a discussion last night.
i am almost always a very tolerant, easygoing person, but there is this one aspect of my personality that has caused us a certain amount of tension.
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1.What either spelling or grammar have to do with this discussion, I have no idea. But,if something is unclear, kindly point it out and I'll gladly rewrite it so that it will hopefully be even more clear than what it already is (at least to some of us).However, you say that my writing is "shoddy" even though you were still able to quote my "The solid 'assuredness'..." and so on. Interesting... 2.Our defintions are obviously different: Fact:n. Knowledge or information based on real occurrences Theory:n. Abstract reasoning; speculation:ex.a decision based on experience rather than theory. Two different things.But if you wnt to mix fact and speculation together then go ahead. 3.If you don't define science as infallible,then why do you rely on it? How is it different than JW teachings if they're not? 4.What do theories of science and engineering have to do with either faith in Creation, the Flood, or Jesus Christ? Please explain some "basic concept theory" in science and engineering(and proper spelling and grammar,for that matter). "Hell is other people"-Jean-Paul Sartre
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Why do so many people NEED to believe in a greater purpose?
by gringojj ini am an atheist.
i believe that this is the only life we have, there is nothing more.
i have no greater purpose.
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Funny that both sides are conceding to existentialism.Hell,even JW's are conceding it to it as well.Even God/Jehovah/Allah/Guru Narnak/all Hindu,Shinto deities,etc can't ever control every single one of our individual thoughts and actions.Otherwise, we'd all be "perfect." I believe that that the word "purpose" is too arbitrary to define objectively. Is the purspose refer to oneself? All others? Animals? The Planet? The universe? God? Did Ivan the Terrible,Atilla the Hun,Napoleon,Alexander the Great,Adol On another note, if you feel good about being an atheist,then why even ask the question/topic up in the first place?It seems (in another incredibly existential move) that others will take notice.When one practices her/his belief, she/he is affriming it for all humankind. When a Nazi is practicing her/his belief, she/he is doing it, in his or her mind, for all woman/mankind.
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Leaving JWs Has Made Me Intolerant of Stupid Thinking - How About U?
by Seeker4 inlori (my girlfriend - a non-jw).
and i had quite a discussion last night.
i am almost always a very tolerant, easygoing person, but there is this one aspect of my personality that has caused us a certain amount of tension.
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The problem is,however,that if one were to "smack" people for being "wrong" due to intellectual ignorance, then, in a limited sense, you aren't much diferent than the JW's. In terms of exact beliefs, there's an obvious difference,but the notions of "infallibility," whether it be either intellectual or theological/theocratical run parallel to each other.The content may be contrasting,but the form of which any righteousness takes is just that: righteousness. As the Witnesses,Mormons,or Catholics,etc, have changed their perception over time, so has the "infallibility" of science. Theories and hypothesis come and go, and while many remain perpetually unrefuted, a number of them have been underminded by other more "substanital" evidence. The solid "assuredness" of certain ideas within science can't be proven either, since they're still only theories, until there is enough evidence. For example,there is the theory of evolution. One would have to literally sit there, for millions of years, taking in data, in order to objectively prove that evolution, is in fact, taking place. But we obviously cannot do this until one is able to live that long to show and prove any results. Oddly enough,Dawrin himself used the word "Creator" (yes, with a capital "c")in the same context as his theory of evolution. Science isn't the only discipline to be further revised. Who hasn't heard of revisionst history, and so on? If you read about Russel's Paradox,we find that even mathematics isn't as "infallibe" as we think it to be,specifically on the subject of classess and members of classes. I think it's safe to say that although there are certain undeniable "truths" that one can see, there is also a constant undermining of ideas that we once held as "infallible."
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What Do Un-Believers Not Believe?
by mensa163 inone of the things that used to annoy me in the new testament was the "believe in jesus" message.
any explainations seemed fuzzy at best so i decided to take a run at it from behind and find the definintion of an un-believer.here is what i came up with and i welcome other opinions.
many of the people around jesus were jews, they walked with him, talked with him, listened to his teachings and witnessed his miracles.
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Jesus aka Y'shuah was God's representative on earth. You could say he was His lawyer. Also he was the conduit of God's wisdom and His divinity.
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What 'pranks' did you pull off?
by Golf insince nate merit has already enumerated some of his pranks, how about sharing your pranks/mischief?
this forum could do with some laughter.
in my school days (50's) my buddy and i were always into mischief (witness or not.
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totally off-subject,but how come some women don't just simply put the toilet seat back down themselves? Is it that difficult? It boggles the mind...
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"Should We Continue To Be What We Are?"
by Ingenuous inmany persons seem to think that they should continue to be what they are, at least as far as religion is concerned.
they will tell you that their parents and grandparents belonged to a certain religion, and they see no reason for making a change....
in many of the ordinary matters of life we make changes.
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Will the new system be uncrowded?
by M.J. ini was talking to an elder yesterday about how enjoyable it is to get away from civilization in remote wilderness areas, unlike the circus you see at places like yosemite natl.
park in california.
with dreamy eyes he mentioned how great it will be in the "new system", when "we can enjoy uncrowded conditions.".
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JWs are also in the dark regarding the true meaning of Sheol/Hades.
by Schizm inthe watchtower society explains "hades" as being "the common grave of mankind".
christendom's understanding of "hades" is, for the most part, quite different than that of the watchtower society.
the one similarity between the two beliefs is that in both cases "hades" is considered to be a literal place.. the truth of the matter is that neither the watchtower society or christendom has a correct understanding of the terms "hades".
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Hades is simply a Greek equivalent to SHEOL otherwise, what the "hell" are they talking about?
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Will the new system be uncrowded?
by M.J. ini was talking to an elder yesterday about how enjoyable it is to get away from civilization in remote wilderness areas, unlike the circus you see at places like yosemite natl.
park in california.
with dreamy eyes he mentioned how great it will be in the "new system", when "we can enjoy uncrowded conditions.".
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Doesn't make sense.If we are to "never die" then how will we live with one another? Think about it, we'll eventually be shoved together like sardines in a can. Bunk, I tell ya.