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Why there shouldn't be Prayers at Meetings

by ISP in

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*** w50 3/15 95-6 letters ***.

absence of prayer at public meetings!.

november 17, 1949. dear brother:.

crittersitter

this has nothing to do with the above, but i heard a funny story about a prayer offered up at a meeting, and thought ya'll would get a kick out of it.
i guess sometime ago when meals were no longer offered at the assemblies, an elderly bro. in n.h. offered prayer at a meeting, and he spoke his heart to jehovah in the way he knew best, honestly and truthfully.
i cannot quote him verbatum, but here is what was heard:
"dear jehovah..blah blah blah....and thank-you that we don't have to eat those "GOD-D*^##" hamburgers any more......"
this is a true story(my 2 sisters heard it and repeated the story to my brother .....

i just thought this was so funny

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an open letter to dear sister danielle

by crittersitter in

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danielle.....you have spent many hours on this board chastizing those apostates, quoting verse, giving us text from the watchtower..... you maybe have even counted your time here( i would).

however in my reading of posts and responses, i sensed a lack of somthing in your efforts to correct and lead the fallen ones back to jehovah.... after much thought and prayerful consideration, i realized it was the lack of agape love for the brothers and sisters who reside here.. what is the verse about our charity and preaching, our works and good deeds...if they are done with out love, they are like a clanging gong.

and what was the greatest of all the commands?????

crittersitter

danielle.....you have spent many hours on this board chastizing those apostates, quoting verse, giving us text from the watchtower....
you maybe have even counted your time here( i would)
however in my reading of posts and responses, i sensed a lack of somthing in your efforts to correct and lead the fallen ones back to Jehovah.... after much thought and prayerful consideration, i realized it was the lack of agape love for the brothers and sisters who reside here.
what is the verse about our charity and preaching, our works and good deeds...if they are done with out love, they are like a clanging gong
and what was the greatest of all the commands????? LOVE
THE SIMPLE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE ..CHRIST LIKE LOVE....

these are some ingredients missing from you danielle......
may GOD bless you and keep you
crittersitter.....jesus freak!!!

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Re: Do Demons Infest this DiscussionBoard-or is...

by eyes_opened in

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nope, no demons.

just you <infesting the board that is>.

"one persons heresy is anothers truth"

crittersitter

wow, ya'll got really tore up over this danielle person(s)
i'd say it was someone who is on the outs with the org but wants to defend it till death, somthing we all have done for a time( hopefully only a millisecond) as we were leaving.
the wt quote mentioned staying close to the org, and not releying on human reasoning.. the two things that keep one from seeking the real truth, and as for the "joyful" people in the org, i can truely say that most were miserable( and those who were happy had bubbly personalities, )
daneille.....if you were truely a dedicated jw, at the first hint of apostasy you would have run like a scalded cat...
not stay to argue or debate
i wish you well in your search for truth and acceptence
i hope you find the love you long for, for it is not in jw land( this you already know)

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Questions for DFShipped...

by LDH in

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hi, dfs.. first of all, let me say it is not necessary to label yourself on this board, or anywhere on the internet for that matter.. so many of us have family members that are df'd, it really doesn't hold much water round here.

i did have some questions for you though, which of course you don't have to answer.. 1. why were you disfellowshipped?

(pls.

crittersitter

i read the posts and the malawi thing came back to mind. i was a young girl at the time, and remember reading the horrific stories, nearly in tears and shocked by the graphic details( which is nothing compared to what we get on the evening news)
i remember thinking that the sexual assults on the sisters were so detailed that even my mom had a hard time explianing this horrid behavior to me ( was this a thrill for all the pedophiles and perverts lurking at the kh at the time?)
i was scared this would happen to us in this country too, after all 1975 was not too far away. i kept my mouth shut about being a jw
i was just a 12 yr old. i did not want to be raped because i was supposed to be "nuetral"
but reality was (and is) many have gone to prison and suffered for what they believe the truth to be. this is in no way to be scoffed at, tho sad to be a martyr for the wrong reasons, or for what may at the time be truth, and then become "new light".
what about those in this country who could not do a job on a military base because it would be supporting the gov't???
or be a policeman because of carrying a gun?
the list goes on, but what about the guys at the top who secretly or not so secretly have an interest in the very things that the rank and file are admonished to stay away from???
recently i was given info on wtbts having shares of stock in an outfit that makes parts for the military...
some of you probably know this, but it was a huge eye opener for me. and i don't give a flip if it was a "donation" or what ever
the company is involved in military componants.
why is it ok for them???
see web site for your self:
http://www.secinfo.com/dvgzt51xv.htm#1xq2

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Double Life??

by Gozz in

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i'm coming out.

i attend meetings; all of them.

even handle some talks.

crittersitter

on thinking more about your post...why would you trust your fate to man? in being a jw , you have done this( or any group who dictates policy over and above God's word) and dictate they do....by labeling former members as apostates, requiring full discloser and details on supposed sins committed, seeking out past attendees to see what they are doing( to see if they need to be df'd)so as not to stumble or reproach Gods name(ha-ha)
limit your talents and gifts by keeping you too busy to develop anything that may be frowned upon by jw policy( this changes from year to year-decade to decade)
serving up guilt trips to make sure you peddle the publications in a timely manner...and report how much time you actually spent doing it.

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Double Life??

by Gozz in

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i'm coming out.

i attend meetings; all of them.

even handle some talks.

crittersitter

why do you want to be a jw? do you believe it is the only true religion..despite the false prophicies? you seem to want to be a jw..no matter what. that in itself could be a danger.
imho, our salvation does not come down to what group or church we are connected too, it is a personal one-on-one deal. look at paul..he was pretty much on his own, tho he had folks helping him out, he reported to no persons or group or body of elders....or do i have this wrong?
what does God want from us? what is His will for our lives? to be a member of a church or group who CLAIMS to be the right religion?'
but any group who tells you to shun those no longer members or that ALL of the rest of the world is evil and wrong has a few problems..namely control. what does that have to do with GOD?
and to label us as apostates without knowing us shows the degree of brainwashing you have succumbed to. i know, i was that way at one time too.
and why do you not believe in blood?? it's coursing thru your viens as we speak..
where is the freedom you should experinece as a christain...you are on the fence my friend

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new here..want to say hi

by crittersitter in

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just want to say hello, am so glad to find others like myself, no longer a jw, but still lovin god in spite of being killed in armageddon, and having family shun me.

when i was a party girl and had no spiritual desires, there was always a chance that i'd "see the light" and go back to jdub land, but since i have become a (dare i say it???)......

a plain old gospel reading christain...i am lower than dirt..apostate scum...buzzard snack(when jehovah kills me during the trib).

crittersitter

ain't it kewl when GOD does that? he did me that way when i dared to go to a church..pentecostal type..WOW, praise and worship!!!! no pink song books. i was amazed at pepole showing so much emotion, i was a reserved yankee x-jw...and we never got excited abut GOD.
knowing HIM is the best thing that ever happened to me. too bad my family thinks i'm demonic and possesed. i rather weep for joy and wave my arms in praise(took awhile to get there tho, had alot of old indoctrination in my head) than be all dour and sour faced at the kh, waiting for armagedon to hit.

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shunning and family members

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i have 3 sisters still in the org.

is it still called the "org"?

2 of them maintain no contact, one because i'm an evil apostate, the other is two faced about it(nice on the phone 2x a year, but does not let anyone know about the contact) the 3rd is pretty cool about it, we e-mail alot and i call monthly( all live 1200 miles away).

crittersitter

in a wierd way i'm comforted in knowing i'm not the only one done this way by jw family and friends. actually , i cannot claim any jw friends.
i was nver da'd or d'fd, but just kind off drifted off into oblivion. when i really needed help, the elders would not help. but they did call on occasion to see if i would go back to meetings. the sad part is i had 4 small kids, stuck in a "holler" in tenn. no car, husband who was a lousy provider and alcholic to boot( always had beer money, but the electric meter got yanked off the house many times)
i remember after we moved to this place(i hated it there so much) that i got to the tues. book study, after much hassle(kids, car, long drive) now mind you my kids were not perfect, but a dirty look from me would stop them in their tracks.
the study was held in the home of an older couple(elder and pioneer wife) whose gorgous home was out of a magazine. i was as entranced as my kids were, but made doubly sure they never left my side.
so after the study was thru, this loving sister took me aside and i thought she was about to compliment me and my well behaved brood( as often happened believe it or not) but ,alas, she quietly suggested i attend the book study at the hall.it would be more suited for my children and myself to attend. you know, easy accsess to potty, other children. i was never so crushed. needless to say i never went back, and the hall was 15 miles further out.
this has pretty much been the way it was my whole jw life. but i do have to say, that i would love to see these ppl now, and show them the true agape love i have learned. it ain't been easy, and some days it's a struggle to not get mad about the past, but i'm learning to get over it. they all have the same problems we do, just complicated by stupid jw'isms that make a hard life worse.

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shunning and family members

by crittersitter in

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i have 3 sisters still in the org.

is it still called the "org"?

2 of them maintain no contact, one because i'm an evil apostate, the other is two faced about it(nice on the phone 2x a year, but does not let anyone know about the contact) the 3rd is pretty cool about it, we e-mail alot and i call monthly( all live 1200 miles away).

crittersitter

i have 3 sisters still in the org. is it still called the "org"? 2 of them maintain no contact, one because i'm an evil apostate, the other is two faced about it(nice on the phone 2x a year, but does not let anyone know about the contact) the 3rd is pretty cool about it, we e-mail alot and i call monthly( all live 1200 miles away). she is in a bad marriage, is planning on leaving some day so is working and scrimping to prepare for that day. i do not think she is a regular meeting goer any more, due to her work load and 3 kids.
they all cling to jw-ism mostly because of my noe deceased mum, who raised us in it. one sis told me she would always be a jdub, because that is the heritage mum left her....
i have e-mailed a few things to them concerning jw misinformation, which they never responded too, but heard it caused a little grief.
when i became a christain, my mum thought that was worse than being a muslim, from her reaction. she cried on several shoulders i think, because at her funeral, i got the coldest most unloving reaction from many who knew me all my life.
funny thing, my two brothers, one who was baptized years ago, who have NOTHING to do with any religion( or GOD sadly) were welcomed with open arms and comforting hugs.
it's pretty tuff to loose a parent, and be treated like a ... i don't even know what... i'll never forget approaching a couple who studied w/ my mum and they literally turned from me, leaving me standing there, but going to my siblings and hugging them
my hubby was there and could not believe that people who claim to be christains could act so evil.

ok...i feel better
got it off my chest thanx

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Confessing

by STRUGGLE in

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hello, i was reading judical com.

was really suprise to find out how some of jw's feel.

some have, like the single mom, have such a negative experience with them.

crittersitter

i agree with thinker, as far as GOD and our relationship to HIM is concerned. it's based on our relating to HIM and HIM alone. i really do not think a church or org. is needed, however we do need the fellowship of like minded ones who are seeking the LORD.
i personally love going to church and the one i go to is filled with great people. i miss on occasion due to what ever but feel no guilt when i do, unlike when i was a jw. i can have contact and fellowship when ever i want to with my FAther. don't gotta do no watchtower study to worship my GOD!!!!
i never did study real hard..i could scan a paragraph , underline it, highlight a few quotes and be done in 20 min. most of the books were sooo boring, there was no challenge to read them, as i love to read and do it alot.
but, the bible is a whole new realm for me since i met JESUS. it's exciting, new, eye-opening and hope full('cept the geneology parts..yawn)
i think when we sin and disobey our CReator, we know it, and don't need a committee of men to rake us over the coals, digging for dirt in our lives. the coolest thing i ever learned was that GOD truely forgives us, and it's between HIM and us..not 3 guys in a kh back room
and having HIM in our hearts makes us want to please Him and do better, though we are sinners, but that's why Jesus died for us... a perfect plan!!!

happy new year all