My family did indeed have Family Day - a pretty extensive one where everybody bought a gift for everyone else. We used to have two or three a year, I guess to make up for birthdays as well. I remember it was a lot of fun, though my siblings and I rarely had enough money to get each other anything really great. Funny how JWs develop compensatory social mechanisms to replace all the traditional ones their religion forces them not to observe.
MuadDib
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Anyone else have "Family Day"?
by tall penguin inmany of the jw's i grew up with had "family day", a kind of pseudo-christmas, where each family member would draw another's name and buy a gift for that person.
they'd then have a special day where they'd exchange gifts and have a meal together.
my family started doing this when i was in my mid 20's.
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HAS AN EVOLUTIONARY LINK BEEN DISCOVERED?
by badboy inscientists have claimed to have found the missing link between fish and land animals on ellesmere island ,canada.
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MuadDib
"The Second LAW of Thermodynamics, Entropy, erases any chance for the theory of evolution to ever be proven."
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Any One here interested in History??
by general ini was just wondering if we have an history fanatics on this forum.... i am personally into the napoleanic wars, american civil war, wwi, and wwii.
if anyone is into history whats your favorite time era??
war??
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MuadDib
I am a history major and I really enjoy reading and learning about all eras of history in all different places. I specialize in Classical Greece and Ancient Rome, especially the military side of things, but I also really enjoy Japanese, European, and 20th-century world history.
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Where were you when the realization hit, that the WTS was not in the truth?
by whyizit ini was listening to a testimonial by valerie acuff and she said that she was sitting in an assembly, looking around at the crowd and thinking to herself, "this is your family, these are your people.".
she said at that moment she heard a voice inside say, "these are not your people, this is not your family, get up and leave now, and don't ever go back.
" so she took her two children at that very moment and left, and she never went back.
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MuadDib
History class.
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Elder™ sighting at work
by Scully infor background info: two elders came to visit this afternoon.
so i'm at work tonight and just before the coffee shop closes, i run downstairs to get something to drink to tide me over the next several hours.
as i approach the kiosque, i see a familiar face approaching from the opposite direction.
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MuadDib
Couple of nights ago me and some buddies were picking out some wine at the liquor store when I was hailed from afar by an elder and some guy I'd never seen (doubtless a JW from another congregation). I waved and said hi back, but he didn't approach us or anything. Probably for the best.
Come to think of it, I always seem to run into JWs when I'm at the liquor store.
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my mom and my sister came to visit....
by theinfamousone innow in case you're wondering why this is such a big deal and why the tears are streaming down my face right now, feel free to look at my story as i like to call it.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/101870/1758191/post.ashx#1758191.
so i think it was thursday i decided to make a huge pot of my little sisters favorite soup for her... when i went to drop it off at their house, well, they werent home, so i left it there with a note just saying hi to her and my mom, and that i miss them and love them... which is probably a shot at my dad who, well you know what i think of him.... i was quite perturbed because i did not receive a phone call or anything to acknowledge that they had received it... so i was a little worried that my father had found it and ripped up my note and thown the soup away... i know it sounds stupid, but i made the soup for my sister, and i mean, i guess it was just to show her how much she means to me... i guess i could have bought her some kind of present, but i dunno, making something seemed right at the time..... so anyways, finally today i get home from school and find a note under my door... they had both come to visit and they left me a note... well my mom wrote a quick note saying they had visited and were sorry they missed me and thanks so much for the soup and for bringing it to them and showing that i do miss them.... she wishes she had been able to see me... my sister wrote me a letter, and left it under my door as well... she wrote on the enveloppe she wanted to give it to me, but was sad she couldnt see me... she says shell call.... this wouldnt be such a big deal, but its the first contact ive had with her in three months or so... i mean, ive called and left messages, but i dont know if any of them even get to her... this little girl means the world to me... and i havent been able to see her in months.... it isnt fair.... so here i am sitting by the phone, thinking of calling in sick to work, just so i can speak to her, i dont want to miss her call... .
i feel so alone right now, and i just dont know.... im pathetic i know, but i miss her so much..... the infamous one
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MuadDib
And for the love of God, never again in your life say that you're "pathetic"! What you've overcome makes you a hero and a champion, and don't you EVER fucking forget it!
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my mom and my sister came to visit....
by theinfamousone innow in case you're wondering why this is such a big deal and why the tears are streaming down my face right now, feel free to look at my story as i like to call it.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/101870/1758191/post.ashx#1758191.
so i think it was thursday i decided to make a huge pot of my little sisters favorite soup for her... when i went to drop it off at their house, well, they werent home, so i left it there with a note just saying hi to her and my mom, and that i miss them and love them... which is probably a shot at my dad who, well you know what i think of him.... i was quite perturbed because i did not receive a phone call or anything to acknowledge that they had received it... so i was a little worried that my father had found it and ripped up my note and thown the soup away... i know it sounds stupid, but i made the soup for my sister, and i mean, i guess it was just to show her how much she means to me... i guess i could have bought her some kind of present, but i dunno, making something seemed right at the time..... so anyways, finally today i get home from school and find a note under my door... they had both come to visit and they left me a note... well my mom wrote a quick note saying they had visited and were sorry they missed me and thanks so much for the soup and for bringing it to them and showing that i do miss them.... she wishes she had been able to see me... my sister wrote me a letter, and left it under my door as well... she wrote on the enveloppe she wanted to give it to me, but was sad she couldnt see me... she says shell call.... this wouldnt be such a big deal, but its the first contact ive had with her in three months or so... i mean, ive called and left messages, but i dont know if any of them even get to her... this little girl means the world to me... and i havent been able to see her in months.... it isnt fair.... so here i am sitting by the phone, thinking of calling in sick to work, just so i can speak to her, i dont want to miss her call... .
i feel so alone right now, and i just dont know.... im pathetic i know, but i miss her so much..... the infamous one
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MuadDib
I guess I missed your story the first time around, but I clicked on the link and I think I'm pretty close to tears myself now, man. You've gone through a lot of terrible shit - things I couldn't even imagine happening in my own life. Not even close. For you to demonstrate that kind of love and selflessness and concern for your family after all you've been through is absolutely incredible, not to mention achieving what you have with your athleticism and your studies. It takes a special kind of person to rise above that kind of past, my friend. Just as others have said - stick with what you've achieved and what you know about yourself. You are better than what you've had to go through, and so long as you always keep that in mind nobody will be able to touch you. And always remember that there's no shame in telling your stories to us, whatever emotions they elicit - like coolhandluke said to me, we are all brothers and we're here for each other whatever happens.
Respect.
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As a JW how do/did you feel about 6 billion people being destroyed?
by jwfacts inhow else can a person justify that jehovah will destroy 6 billion people, innocent children included?
i could never accept that i deserved salvation whereas almost no one else did.
it put me on permanent spiritual edge because i thought the slave is right so the doctrine of destruction must be, but my heart always knew it was wrong.
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I never really thought about it much as a JW. I always felt that I was good enough to get into the Paradise and while the thought of my friends and extended family not being there was unpleasant and bothersome I didn't dwell on it. I theorized that the catastrophe of Armageddon and the return of Jebuz would be so overwhelming that it would convince them to turn around and convert - surely no reasonable person would be able to deny the truth of the JW teachings once that all started, or so I thought.
And then I took some modern and military history and started learning about just what it means when a large number of people are killed. I read in horrifying, grisly detail about the Nazi extermination programs, Stalin's war on his own people, the Japanese invasion of China. I learned about battlefields, burial mounds, besieged cities. How to practically deal with a mound of human corpses ("raking up the bones" sounds deceptively simple). And Jehovah, to me, started sounding like Stalin writ large - a megalomaniacal tyrant bent on the destruction of everybody who didn't agree with him, trying to create some kind of horrible dystopia where his will dominated the lives of the few survivors and there was no potential for the growth of either your own individual personality or human society as a whole. Armageddon began to sound more like a war crime than a deliverance from evil. Now I shudder to think that I could once have been so monumentally ignorant as to think that any world would be worth living in after the eradication of humanity and all its history, music, art, architecture, literature, science, and achievement.
Shit, imagine a meeting that never ended. That's the JW paradise, with everybody else in the world killed by their loving God. No fucking thank you.
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So....How's The F A D I N G Coming Along?
by minimus inso far, i've been left alone.
no one's bugging me.
i hear the c.o.
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MuadDib
Everything was going fine until I got a phone call the other day from the Service Overseer. I have his regular number and another elder's tagged on my phone so I never answer, but they must have figured me out because they called from a restricted number and I picked up thinking it might be my dealer. Apparently they want to come talk to me about why I haven't been at meetings or in service. I told them it wasn't a good day, maybe another time, call before you come over, good-bye. Dodged the bullet, but I think I'll put my roommate on alert because I'm sure they'll take it upon themselves to drop by unannounced. With any luck I won't be home.
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Just how hyped was 1975?
by MuadDib inaight.
i was raised in the jws, but i'm still young (22) and all my life what i've been told is that the society never really promoted 1975 as the definitive year for the coming of armageddon.
what i was always told is that some overzealous witnesses took certain things out of context and developed a very extreme reaction - ie selling their houses, quitting their jobs, dropping out of school, etc.
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MuadDib
"Well, that line caused a little silence in the room."
Ha ha ha, I can only imagine! I'm sure Brother Wagner brought that line out loud and clear.