Posts by Spectrum

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Your favourite film of all time?

by Spectrum in

mindless fun part (ii) .

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mine is - west side story followed in second place by the very first star wars.

Spectrum

Has anybody seen Skin Deep (an 80s film) This was the funniest film I have ever seen!!

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An essay on Christ's very existence. Let's break it down.

by Spectrum in

jw
friends

the article can be found at .

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/marshall_gauvin/did_jesus_really_live.html .

it is an interesting read but i've found some weak points.

"The evidence overall is quite persuasive."

I'd agree that the evidence is quite persuasive. What bothers me is there are people out there with an agenda because they are either anti religious or anti-christian. With such a mindset it is probably easy to weave an argument to suit your ends.

Once you unbrainwash your mind though from the idea that the bible is inerrant then it is possible to be objective about the whole thing.

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An essay on Christ's very existence. Let's break it down.

by Spectrum in

jw
friends

the article can be found at .

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/marshall_gauvin/did_jesus_really_live.html .

it is an interesting read but i've found some weak points.

Spectrum

Peacefulpete,

"The author/revisor of Luke/Acts used Josephus at many points."

This is a revelation for me. Is it for real or your conjecture?

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An essay on Christ's very existence. Let's break it down.

by Spectrum in

jw
friends

the article can be found at .

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/marshall_gauvin/did_jesus_really_live.html .

it is an interesting read but i've found some weak points.

Spectrum

Narkissos,

"While it is a somewhat obvious conclusion that the Jesus(es) of the Gospels never existed as they portray him"

I think a few clergy will take you up on it though as This is your personal opinion, based on ....?

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An essay on Christ's very existence. Let's break it down.

by Spectrum in

jw
friends

the article can be found at .

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/marshall_gauvin/did_jesus_really_live.html .

it is an interesting read but i've found some weak points.

Spectrum

Sad emo,

"He only seems to come up with potentially valid suggestions right at the very end of the article - pity he didn't address these in the same way as he pulls the gospels apart!"

Good point he's just doing a pick & mix, whatever suits his bias.

I always thought Palestine was a backwater to the Romans and scholars of the day, so yet another Prophet probably didn't carry much interest. I imagine Jesus existed, was maybe a very nice man that knew how to spin the old testament to suit his vision for a better future. Few people of the day took to this vision and then it just built up momentum over the decades and centuries.

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Need help forgiving myself.

by cloud in

hi guys, im new here and im christian (though trying to read the bible for what it is instead of looking to preacher all the time.

) anyway, i have a dilemma.

im 26 right now.

Spectrum

Cloud,

OK I got a carried away in my last post. All of it stands except the bit about multiple girls. What I should have said is doing it as often as your mind and body allows with a girl you like. You must like the girl though otherwise you'll have other problems to deal with, with your conscience.

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Need help forgiving myself.

by cloud in

hi guys, im new here and im christian (though trying to read the bible for what it is instead of looking to preacher all the time.

) anyway, i have a dilemma.

im 26 right now.

Spectrum

Cloud,

You are beating yourself up over nothing. At 26 you should be enjoying life not having pangs of guilt over kissing and touching up a girl.
I'd go for homeotherapy ie. the more girls you do it with the less guilty you will feel. I was a virgin until the age of 29. When I finally did it I felt really guilty and dirty, looking back I feel so stupid that I felt that way and didn't manage to enjoy my first time with my sexy girlfriend.
Believe me, the guilt you are feeling now is a waste of emotion and unecessarily depressing. Sow your wild oats and don't worry be happy.

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An essay on Christ's very existence. Let's break it down.

by Spectrum in

jw
friends

the article can be found at .

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/marshall_gauvin/did_jesus_really_live.html .

it is an interesting read but i've found some weak points.

Spectrum

The article can be found at
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/marshall_gauvin/did_jesus_really_live.html

It is an interesting read but I've found some weak points.
1) The excert below for example shows that the author is trying so hard to prove his thesis that he actually sounds silly trying to make out that the Roman justice system was the best thing since sliced bread. The Romans crucified people left right and centre. Roman soldiers were beaten to death by their comrades if they didn't perform well in battle.
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Nothing could be more improbable than the story of Christ's crucifixion. The civilization of Rome was the highest in the world. The Romans were the greatest lawyers the world had ever known. Their courts were models of order and fairness. A man was not condemned without a trial; he was not handed to the executioner before being found guilty. And yet we are asked to believe that an innocent man was brought before a Roman court, where Pontius Pilate was Judge; that no charge of wrongdoing having been brought against him, the Judge declared that he found him innocent; that the mob shouted, "Crucify him; crucify him!" and that to please the rabble, Pilate commanded that the man who had done no wrong and whom he had found innocent, should be scourged, and then delivered him to the executioners to be crucified! Is it thinkable that the master of a Roman court in the days of Tiberius Caesar, having found a man innocent and declared him so, and having made efforts to save his life, tortured him of his own accord, and then handed him over to a howling mob to be nailed to a cross? A Roman court finding a man innocent and then crucifying him? Is that a picture of civilized Rome? Is that the Rome to which the world owes its laws? In reading the story of the Crucifixion, are we reading history or religious fiction? Surely not history.
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2) He contends that the Christians in the NT are ficticious and yet Pilate, Ciaphas and Herod are not. Why should the rest be?

Anybody want to question other parts of this person's article?