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  Intelligent Design and Real World Nastiness

  by TD in

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  the concept of intelligent design in every form that ive run across contains as a basic premise, the benevolence of the "intelligence" behind the design.

  please dont misunderstand; i'm not faulting proponents of id for this.

  any other id scenario involving a supreme being is frankly too depressing to contemplate.

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  Heathen you mock me.
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  Intelligent Design and Real World Nastiness

  by TD in

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  the concept of intelligent design in every form that ive run across contains as a basic premise, the benevolence of the "intelligence" behind the design.

  please dont misunderstand; i'm not faulting proponents of id for this.

  any other id scenario involving a supreme being is frankly too depressing to contemplate.

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  Spectrum

  Enigma you have me all wrong,
  
  I'm seething because it took me ages to write a section of a small theory I'm experimenting with, broswer crashed and I lost everything. I'm bouncing my ideas off abaddon to see what he thinks.
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  Does the King Kong movie have racist overtones?

  by enlightenedcynic in

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  hey everybody,.

  was having a discussion with a co-worker about the new kk movie.

  he asked if i saw it already.

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  Spectrum

  FunkyDerek,
  
  "Can you provide examples please"
  
  Of course I can. Just watch the portrayals in percentage terms of non whites verses whites verses jews. What we do we find from the inception of Hollywood?
  
  Blacks portrayed as violent gun toting rapists of white women. Usual social setting poor, destitute, aggressive.
  Hispanic's reputation is now going through the same racist hollywood meat grinder.
  American Indians savages ready to scalp virtuous innocent white rose. Sometimes though saved by the heroic strong white man unless he gets scalped himself.
  South Americans - drug lords.
  Africans need a stupid white man to show them how to survive in their own natural environment. Ridiculous.
  
  Jews are portrayed as the virtue of the world - Brain surgeons, musician, clever lawyers, upright business men, distinctly jewish names not associated with villains.
  
  There are hundreds of films that bear out the racism inherent in hollywood. Don't get me wrong I don't blame world jewry I blame the racists of hollywood.
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  Does the King Kong movie have racist overtones?

  by enlightenedcynic in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  hey everybody,.

  was having a discussion with a co-worker about the new kk movie.

  he asked if i saw it already.

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  Hollywood has always had racist ideals. It played to the white racists of USA and Europe and made lots of money in the process.
  If white society doesn't like non-whites then you can be sure that they will be portrayed negatively unless the non-whites being portrayed are jews. That's just the reality of hollywood.
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  How did you overcome the allure of Paradise? Or have you?

  by M.J. in

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  i think the biggest reason someone maintains their faith in the wts is because the wts is the "ticket" to paradise earth.. how did you deal with the prospect that the "ticket" salesmen weren't totally reliable?.

  did it cause you to let go of your hope in paradise earth?

  did it redirect it to another hope?.

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  Someone asked me the question what difference does it make where the comma was? Why all the ruckus? Either way Christ talk about paradise. So whether they went to paradise that day or some day in the distant future, paradise was still the end result. I didn't know what to say to him, he was right. Considering JWs believe at least some people will go to heaven its a non eventus.
  
  But I digress,
  
  I sinned my way out of the allure. No paradise for you son. Fair dues gov I'll just keep enjoying myself.
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  Intelligent Design and Real World Nastiness

  by TD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the concept of intelligent design in every form that ive run across contains as a basic premise, the benevolence of the "intelligence" behind the design.

  please dont misunderstand; i'm not faulting proponents of id for this.

  any other id scenario involving a supreme being is frankly too depressing to contemplate.

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  Spectrum

  Abaddon
  
  I wrote you a long reply but my browser crashed and I lost everything.
  My temper is seathing.
  
  I'll try again tomorrow
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  My response from the CCoJW inre UN/DPI

  by AuldSoul in

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  Spectrum

  AuldSoul,
  
  So what your saying is, their analogy of the governments does not apply because they are not members of any goverment department.
  But lets accept that they were members:
  
  1. Why would they do it then hide it?
  2. What do they have to gain from this?
  
  It doesn't make sense to set yourself up for such a basting. Maybe it really was accidental. But why wasn't Jehovah watching their back?
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  Intelligent Design and Real World Nastiness

  by TD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the concept of intelligent design in every form that ive run across contains as a basic premise, the benevolence of the "intelligence" behind the design.

  please dont misunderstand; i'm not faulting proponents of id for this.

  any other id scenario involving a supreme being is frankly too depressing to contemplate.

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  Spectrum

  Abaddon,
  
  TD said, " However the task of reconciling the idea of a munificent Designer with the reality of life is is not without a few hurdles."
  
  You said, "As regards debunking the Creator, you make a logical error. It is not sceintists place to debunk the Creator"
  
  Is it me you are arguing with here or TD?
  
  I don't think I was barking up that tree, I have accepted that you cannot prove a creator by disproving evolution.
  
  You also make a logical error or bad judgment. You are not in a position to say the Creator doesn't exist because you know you don't know that.
  
  Forget the goat herders, apart from some moral values in the NT I don't subscribe to the Bible.
  
  My take on the subject is this:
  
  If there is incontrivertible evidence for evolution and, I'm not talking adaptation, then my belief is that a Creator programmed a senquence of rules or laws, a framework if you like for organic matter to evolve from simple to more complex to animated.
  My analogy is the instructions received by the CPU of a computer. The CPU processes each simple intruction given to it and according to rules, predicates and what-not constructs a complex application that can fly you to Mars. The application alters its execution according to the inputs it receives and an instruction that would have been executed isn't as a new instruction is loaded to deal with the new input. So one minute the application does one thing and the next something entirely different. The laws of the Computer/program were pre-written years before but applied during execution.
  
  To add credence to this theory.
  Stars and planets, snow flakes are complex inanimate objects. But they don't form without following the very specific rules of physics for the large and the small, so finely tuned that a little more mass here a little less gravity there and non of this would have been possible. To create a star nature follows a framework of precise rules without which nothing happens in this universe. Blind evolution is about pot luck randomness. How many times the word random comes up with evolutionists to create something better when it should be the word instruction?
  This is what evolutionary scientists are really measuring - the pre created though out instruction set for things to be allowed to evolve to complexity.
  
  So Abaddon what do you think?
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  My response from the CCoJW inre UN/DPI

  by AuldSoul in

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  Spectrum

  AudSoul,
  
  I'm ignorant of the intricacies and implications of this UN business but one thing that struck me in their response is the bit where they say that they behave no differently with goverments they have to deal with on a frequent basis. The UN is just a collection of governments so what principle is it that they have broken?
  
  You can not deal with governments even Christ said - give to caeser unto ceaser and God to God.
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  My "un"association letter

  by AuldSoul in

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  the name was suggested by someone who posts here, since it is not really a disassociation letter.

  here, for your criticism pleasure, is my "un"association letter..

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  Spectrum

  AuldSoul,
  
  Very nicely and sincerely written but you didn't tell us the outcome.
  
  I was never baptised but everybody knew me for years as a JW, when I stopped going I don't think anybody batted an eyelid and no shunning.
  Maybe it's diffferent when you are baptised, they see you as having sworn the Omerta.