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  My last meeting

  by PoppyR in

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  so last night we had the last book study at our house, next week all the congregations change around and i asked for it to be moved.

  so i sat in on it, and afterwards we had a bit of a 'party'.

  felt quite emotional really, although i haven't answered for a long time i put my hand up to read a scripture just so i could mark the last time i did this.

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  Spectrum

  Poppy
  
  So she shuns her own daughter. Amazing and sad.
  
  I remember in my day 23 years ago when they talked about disfellowshiping, close family members were not subject to shunning, purely for the practicle reason that it's not possible not to talk to your wife/husband or daughter and so on.
  
  Maybe this mother read the rule book wrong?
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  Gaps in Fossil Record Disprove Evolution? What about Gaps in Creationism?

  by Reluctant Buddha in

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  missing links disprove a theory???.

  what about this one, creationists!!!.

  real t-rex .

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  Abaddon,
  
  What environmental pressures produced the eukoryotic's nuclear membrane?
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  Need some quick advice...

  by sassafras in

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  my biweekly jdub visit is coming up here in a few hours, and i could use a bit of advice.... the lady knows i am a big time doubter, but she has some sort of personal mission to get my husband back into the truth (it makes me sick to write that) and get me in as well.

  she comes by at the exact same time every two weeks to drop of the new wts, reads some scripture, asks how i'm doing, blah blah blah.. i'm pretty polite to her, but i'm ready to kick it up a notch.

  any suggestions for something i could start with?

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  Truth,
  
  do you have any demonistic subliminal images you can post.
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  Gaps in Fossil Record Disprove Evolution? What about Gaps in Creationism?

  by Reluctant Buddha in

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  missing links disprove a theory???.

  what about this one, creationists!!!.

  real t-rex .

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  Spectrum

  You insist it's not random and not blind. Ok I'll have to read up more and either give more precise meaning or change/remove those two words altogether from my argument.
  
  You are of the opinion that God is a sentiment of a few goatherders from the land of Canaan. My feeling is that human need to believe in God is an integral part of the human psyche. It's hardwired into us for some reason.
  
  Now regarding your RNA. I'm still not quite sure what it proves. I'll tell you what I understand and you can tell me where I'm going wrong.
  
  You've start with some complex polymer RNA, don't no where it came from, perhaps a virus, you then change it's(RNA) environment and it hydrolyses(if that's the reaction type) in a consistent manner to a 500 unit long polymer. OK so this molecule breaks down in a test tube environment. The infecting part is lost, so what? Not sure if this lashes out at my accusation of blindness and randomness.
  
  It's stable at 3600 units in one environment and breaks down to 500 in another. Most reactions are predictable.
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  Gaps in Fossil Record Disprove Evolution? What about Gaps in Creationism?

  by Reluctant Buddha in

  1. watchtower
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  missing links disprove a theory???.

  what about this one, creationists!!!.

  real t-rex .

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  Spectrum

  Tetra,
  
  "i basically wipe your face with your own argument, and instead of thanking me,"
  
  Well stated, but how so? I thought it was quite the opposite. You took choice one that involved intelligence and purpose - you turned against your own arse mate.
  
  I will thank you though. For showing that even evolutionist prefer intelligence behind a complex sequence of events.
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  Gaps in Fossil Record Disprove Evolution? What about Gaps in Creationism?

  by Reluctant Buddha in

  1. watchtower
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  missing links disprove a theory???.

  what about this one, creationists!!!.

  real t-rex .

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  Spectrum

  Thanks for the upgrade much appreciated.
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  Gaps in Fossil Record Disprove Evolution? What about Gaps in Creationism?

  by Reluctant Buddha in

  1. watchtower
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  missing links disprove a theory???.

  what about this one, creationists!!!.

  real t-rex .

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  Tetra,
  
  There's a big flaw in your santa analogy.
  
  Choice one assumes a complex sequence of events that can only by implemented by an intelligent source.
  Choice two assumes that you don't believe in complex things magically appearing from nowhere - only a child would.
  You would hold on to choice one like your life depended on it and resist choice two till your dying days.
  Which physical law prohibits something from nothing?
  
  In terms of parsimony, this is a fake choice that you have given me. Why? Because one is known to be a non event. I don't know about you but die hard evolutionist abaddon has already admitted that he personally cannot exclude the existence of God. Ask in case I misunderstood him.
  
  Mine were realistic. Why? Because the only difference between us is, you believe evolution was unguided and I believe it was guided. The law of parsimony therefore works overwhelming in my favour for each stage of evolution. I add God to one of the choices, which you say complicates things unnecessarily, but in adding God you remove improbabilities that would choke up choice two to the point where it becomes as improbable as your santa analogy.
  
  Respect
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  Gaps in Fossil Record Disprove Evolution? What about Gaps in Creationism?

  by Reluctant Buddha in

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  missing links disprove a theory???.

  what about this one, creationists!!!.

  real t-rex .

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  Satanus,
  
  How does a scientist's denial of the existence of God nevermind his origins, and me accepting that it is unlikely to ever be known make an evolutionary scientists theory more credible.
  
  
  " A scientist, on the other hand, would"
  
  Really? Scientist deny his existence nevermind test for it.
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  Gaps in Fossil Record Disprove Evolution? What about Gaps in Creationism?

  by Reluctant Buddha in

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  missing links disprove a theory???.

  what about this one, creationists!!!.

  real t-rex .

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  Spectrum

  Funky,
  
  there you go. Happy?
  
  http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn2259
  
  "The cherished assumption that life emerged in the oceans has been thrown into doubt. New research shows that primitive cellular membranes assemble more easily in freshwater than in salt water. So although the oldest known fossil organisms were ocean dwellers, life may actually have developed in freshwater ponds.
  
  Most theories on the origin of cellular life presume that the first step was the formation of a spherical membrane called a vesicle that could enclose self-replicating chemical chains - the ancestors of modern DNA. The idea is that the ingredients for simple membranes were all present on the early Earth, and at some point formed vesicles spontaneously in water.
  
  It seemed most likely that this took place in the sea rather than freshwater, largely because of the sheer size of the oceans. With their unique chemistry, deep-sea thermal vents and tidal pools are generally believed to be the most likely sites. "
  
  The only other assumption I heard as to lifes origins other than oceans is aliens.
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  And the biggest WTBS oxymoron is…

  by zagor in

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  in my opinion it is a current truth.

  ive never heard of such term elsewhere.

  the funny thing is you never really know when an old truth stops being current and becomes a new lie.. .

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  Spectrum

  " And the biggest WTBS oxymoron is…"
  
  
  We love you ...... don't take that blood even if it kills you.