lets compile a list of all the significant events that took place in watchtower land this year, 2010. the new lights, wt quotes, developments, new procedures, etc.
ill get started, just to mention a few.... 1) the overlapping generation.
2) the death of two members of the governing body.. 3) the death of ray franz.
I'm hoping to see the continuation of the decline of witnesses in Europe. Even better would be the rest of the world grinding to a halt in JW land
Looking forward to someone posting a scan of the 2010 service report from the 2011 Yearbook. Who is going to be the first to do that this year?
what happens when the rules regarding medical treatment are changed because it is now decided that the watchtower god does allows certain blood fractions after all but which formerly the wts said would offend him so much that offenders would be sent to gehenna?.
blood serums are just one example.
in 1954 the societys ruling on blood serums disallowed their use because using blood serums was displeasing to god.
There was another really bad consequence of the societies changing their mind on something.
For years JW hemophilics were told by the society that they could have one dose of a blood fraction but no more as that would constitute a 'feeding' of blood which they felt was wrong.
They had told this to witnesses who had contacted them. After a while they changed their mind and decided it was ok to have what was necessary for them. So they contaced ones whoi had written in but of course could not tell the ones who had phoned in.
So it may well have happened that many JWs died simply because the society had given them wrong imfo.
Apparantly it was put into print 3 years later but not in a very clear way, and certainly not saying that they had any new light on this.
Info on this can be found in Ray Franz book 'Crisis of conscience'
the local elders have been trying to visit me (my hubby still attends meetings and he has told them i don't wish to speak with them), they left a copy of a watchtower (on helping inactive ones to return) in my door when i was not at thome, and this last sunday asked my husband if it's ok to write me a letter saying this is what they have to do.
they can't freely stop by as we have large dogs that would keep them out.. does anyone know if this is going to result in my being df'd??
i don't want that to happen yet as my husband's parents who are quite elderly, would be devastated.
The disfellowshipping of course depends if you have done anything wrong from their point of view.
If you simply privately disagree with their doctrines, there is nothing they can do providing you don't tell them or others about your true feelings.
If they think you will be bad mouthing the org then they will do what they think is necessary with or without you.
So basically don't give them any ammunition.
i am curious if anyone knows the process by which new light, or revisions in beliefs actually are agreed on for presentation to the followers?.
does one member of the gb bring up something and they all talk about it and decide?
or do they get a bunch of questions in the mail and decide to re-evaluate something based on the fan mail?
Ray Franz also spoke about how for something to change there had to be a two thirds majority.
So if there were 12 members of the gov. body at any one time and say seven voted for a change (or you could say new light on something), then because they did not have a two thirds majority ie eight members, then the change would not go through.
Over the years this seemed to have happened quite a lot. The majority may have wanted change but because of the two thirds majority rule many new ideas never got through.
a little background before my recap of my conversation.
my father left my mom and i when i was young, like before i was 5. so i didn't know him other than a couple images i had of him in my head.
i don't have any bad feelings towards him, even though he cheated on my mom and took 20 years to pay back child-support.
Hi soldier I was pleased to see that you put the blame on the governing body.
JWs love to say how we hate jws but that is not true.
The blame for how the society acts quite rightly rests at the door of the governing body. Most JWs are victims as we once were.
i can't remember the last time i was asked that question because it has been many years.
nor do i remember my response to the questioner but it no doubt contributed to not being asked the question since.
are you in the truth?
If any witness speaks to me about 'the truth' I always say 'you mean the untruth' which can lead into a good conversation into the masses of things they have got wrong over the years
accidently ordered 2 copies of ray franz new book "in search of christian freedom" instead of a "crisis of conscience.
" i need a copy of crisis of conscience.
even if it's been used if anyone wants to swap i can send my book?????
Can't you send it back and get the other book you want. Most stores would do that.
Incidently you may enjoy downloading the books so you can read them on the computer or maybe on the new kindle reading device.
many on this forum already know that i'm a member of the humanist society scotland.. at our annual conference last month, i was happy to collect a bumper sticker that had been produced for a special capaign earlier this year to raise awareness of humanism issues within scotland.
our population is very small - just over 5 million people, so the simple message was bound to create quite a stir:.
two million scots are good without god.
I am from England and I and my parents are humanists.
My father died in 2005 and we had a humanist funeral. It was excellent. Unlike witness funerals there was no aim to convert everybody or to tell everyone this is what God wants us to do.
The funeral was focused on my father, what he did with his life, how he helped others etc.
It was the most respectful funeral I have ever been to. There was serious moments and funny moments recalled. Also you can choose to play maybe some special piece of music that was enjoyed by the deseased.
I also believe that any humanist will get on well in life, being particularly practical people and not thinking that they will have a better time in the afterlife.
has anyone had trouble getting on to the six screens website?.
i try to check on the conference calls occasionally, but i can't today.. thanks.
drew.
Hi drew, yes I can't get to the website either. I hope Rick is ok. I sent him a Facebook message a few days ago reminding him that he has not posted the last 3 conference calls which I always enjoy listening to.
Does anyone else know if all is well?
as it is the end of the jw service year, it would be nice to see how they finished up in august 2010 as regards total publishers.. quite often there seems to be a big push to get as many as possable to put in a service report to finish the year off.. so a scan would be good or just a report on how many publishers they ended up with.
thanks.
Hi factfinder. Yes it was posted. Here is the link
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/200072/1/OKM_November_2010_for_Britain_OCRd-pdf
