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  Another hammer blow for the WTS from the Internet

  by besty in

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  latest pew research reveals that 18-29 year olds now use the internet as their primary source of news.

  interesting correlation between education and primary news source as well.. http://people-press.org/report/689/.

  the national survey by the pew research center for the people & the press, conducted dec. 1-5, 2010 among 1,500 adults reached on cell phones and landlines, finds that more people continue to cite the internet than newspapers as their main source of news, reflecting both the growth of the internet, and the gradual decline in newspaper readership (from 34% in 2007 to 31% now).

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  alanv

  Gerard You are right but I would say it won't be long before they catch us up or at least get more reliable and widespread internet access.
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  Another hammer blow for the WTS from the Internet

  by besty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  latest pew research reveals that 18-29 year olds now use the internet as their primary source of news.

  interesting correlation between education and primary news source as well.. http://people-press.org/report/689/.

  the national survey by the pew research center for the people & the press, conducted dec. 1-5, 2010 among 1,500 adults reached on cell phones and landlines, finds that more people continue to cite the internet than newspapers as their main source of news, reflecting both the growth of the internet, and the gradual decline in newspaper readership (from 34% in 2007 to 31% now).

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  Thanks for that besty. I really am not surprised by that. I guess most youngsters when they log on to the internet go to the home page first, and that is where the links to the news can be found. I have retired now and still use the TV for news although I certainly use the internet as well
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  Favorite Quotes

  by t33ap80c in

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  i got the following quote from ros over at beacon.... "you cannot change someone's mind by proving that they are wrong.".

  don cameron.

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  I thnik that is spot on.

  I and others, constantly show JWs where they are wrong on different forums, and it does not seem to make a lot of difference. Unless they perceive that you have something better to offer, they are not interested. I guess we all need to get a bit smarter in what we say to them.
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  It Is WRONG To Make Threads About What The Watchtower Is Doing If You Do Not Have Facts To Back It Up!!!

  by minimus in

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  i think we should not make statements about what the watchtower society is secretly doing if we can not substantiate the statements.. we do not know if a "bethelite" is doing whatever he claims to be doing clandestinely.

  when we make threads or statements about things we have absolutely no proof of, we are making ourselves look bad.. when impressionable people read these things, it sets our efforts back immensely.. please think about what you're doing.

  it's counter-productive!.

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  Totally agree Minmus. I regularly post on JW forums and find it is essential to be able to back up what I say.

  Even when you show a scan of a gov body letter the dubs try and say it is a forgery. I find it very helpful to have the Watchtower cd rom as you can show exactly what the society say about something, and they can accept that a lot easier (even though they don't like it.
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  I'm not sure how long I can stay married to the Witnesses

  by wifeofjw in

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  i don't post often, but i lurk a lot.

  i have fonund the information to be helpful and encouraging.. however, i'm not sure how much longer i can take being married to the jw's.. i have a wonderful husband, but he believes everything this cult tells him.

  most recently he has decided that because the end is near we don't have to worry about our bills.

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  Hi wifeofjw,

  I do really feel for you. It is hard when one is in and the othew out. I was wondering whether you both need to work to stay solvent. If you don't, then as the bread winner you are in the best position to see where the money goes.

  There are many articles the Watchtower have written over the years telling the witnesses the end is near and they should pioneer or not marry or not have children.

  Many of those who took that advice have suffered very much and certainly the ons who got into debt because they believed the societies lies.

  If you both need to work, why don't you pay the bills and then your husband would have to pay for other essentials.

  I was lucky. Although I was married to a witness, I was the bread winner so decided what the money should go.

  I really hope you can sort this out, you really need to be strong, because you must remember that your husband is a victim in all this. He simply has not seen that he is in a cult. Hopefully he soon will come to his senses.

  I wish you well.
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  [JPEG] Memorial Partakers Worldwide: 11,202

  by possible-san in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a scanned picture from the japanese version "2011 yearbook of jehovahs witnesses.".

  http://ameblo.jp/musa-sabi/entry-10750966469.html.

  2010 grand totals:.

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  Thanks for the figures but how about a scan of the whole 2010 report. Surely someone has it by now
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  [JPEG] Memorial Partakers Worldwide: 11,202

  by possible-san in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a scanned picture from the japanese version "2011 yearbook of jehovahs witnesses.".

  http://ameblo.jp/musa-sabi/entry-10750966469.html.

  2010 grand totals:.

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  Thanks for the figures but how about a scan of the whole 2010 report. Surely someone has it by now
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  Taking blood automatically disassociates you?

  by lostsheep82 in

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  i don't get how you are disassociated if you take blood, if you are unrepentant according to the elders manual on pg 111. now do they have this same elders manual in bulgaria?.

  also if you join a nonnuetral organization you dissasociate yourself automatically.

  so i wonder if some poor janitor brother with his own business became an ngo with the un if he would have been cast out!

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  alanv

  Especially since the baptism changed question in 1985 where you have to agree to act inaccord with the organisation.

  Clearly if you take blood you have stopped of your own accord being one of Jehovah's Witnesses. From there point of view it was a clever move as it was the person themself that showed they did not want to be part of the org.
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  HI GAYLE: CAN YOU SCAN THE WORLWIDE SERVICE REPORT FROM THE 2011 YEARBOOK?

  by steve2 in

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  you kindly did this for last year's report and since no one's yet done it for the current year,i wondered if you could?

  thanks in anticipation.

  steve2.

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  alanv

  Can I reiterate that. Surely by now someone particulrly in the USA must have a copy. I want to see how badly Europe has done this year.

  Who will be our hero this year and get a good scan of it?

  Here's hoping!
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  Did your parents make you tell people (at xmas time) that you got gifts throughout the year

  by myusername in

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  2. experiences

  i see people saying this online.

  my parents made us tell people tha we got gifts throughout the year and that we probably got more presents than kids get on birthdays and christmas.

  however, it was a complete lie.

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  alanv

  Strangely this was one thing I liked about the witnesses. I still am very against giving cards and presents because it is' that time of year.

  So many only send cards because someone will or has sent them one.

  To this day I do not like xmas and the commersialism etc.

  I believe in spontanious giving, but not giving because it is the done thing at this time of year.