And in the end most of it is treated as junk mail. It is obvious, actually very few people are influenced by it by the very low increases the society have every year.
Posts by alanv
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11How many trees does it take to print WTB&TS mags each month?
by wannabefree inif my math is correct .... public watchtower printed each issue: 42,182,000. awake printed each issue: 41,042,000.
7.24" x 9.47" x 16 pages two sides.
16 x 9.47" x 41,042,000. one magazine end to end - 151.52".
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Shy JW at the door ... the pain of it
by MrMonroe insomeone tweeted today: "a jehovah's witness who is shy to people at the door.
those few words paint such a sad picture.
how many jws with little self-esteem and self-confidence, particularly born-ins who have never known anything different, are sent out into neighbourhoods to knock on the doors of strangers and speak to them, knowing the householder resents them being there?
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alanv
You are right. I think what gets them through it, is that they are trained to answer the most used rebuttles. For instance many people tell the witnesses they are not interested. The response? 'What is it you are not interested in?' Householders reply 'I am not interested in Jehovah's Witnesses'. Witness replies 'Oh we are not here to speak about Jehovah's Witnesses, we are here to speak about the bible'.
I remember there were many times I and others used that type of answer. Ah the good old days. Not!
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March 15, 2012 WT: These times are more critical than when we last called them critical, honest!!
by MrMonroe injust sad.
"the christian ministry has always been urgent, but now it is more critical than ever.
" (page 18).. what follows is more of the same disgusting tripe: the same scare tactics (nuclear weapons, terrorists, climate change, hurricanes, wars) that made me join in 1985 when the world was on the brink of nuclear armageddon.
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alanv
Every generation of witnesses from Russell onwards has been convinced by the world conditions that the end is imminent. Every generation has been wrong. End of.
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The 1260 Days a tenfold kaleidoscope of Watchtower waverings.
by FatFreek 2005 inthe following table illustrates the extent to which watchtower sometimes goes in their interpretation of scriptures.
when i look at that table and the charts that follow, it makes me think of the word kaleidoscope.
i suspect we've all played with such a toy when we were kids.. kaleidoscope -- a constantly changing pattern or sequence of objects or elements.
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alanv
The depressing thing though is that witnesses living in the 21st century, have no idea whatsoever about all the past flip flops and alterations.
They are encouraged to just look at the situation now.
So what they see is revolutions in many countries, financial problems in leading world economies and their mother organisation telling them that this shows how we are at the end of the present system.
For many that is all they need ie reassurance that everything will work out very soon.
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2011 Watchtower publisher statistics with analysis
by jwfacts inthe 2012 yearbook has released the publisher statistics for the 2011 service year.
a scan of the report can be found at http://www.jwfacts.com/images/2011-publisher-report.pdf and i have started updating the graphs at http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php.
as expected, it is following on from similar trends to the last 15 years.
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alanv
Good point room 215. I had not thought of that. If only an extra small percentage started counting bible studies in the family, it would raise the figure considerably. What would be really interesting is, how many studies are just with newly interested ones that are not a part of the JW families
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Serving where the need in greater - and leaving the "truth"
by dozy ina few years ago , a very zealous 30 ish pioneer couple sold up & moved to central america to serve where the need is greater.
they were the classic incredibly "enthusiastic for jehovah" types who had deliberately not had any family & led a very "simple" life to focus on kingdom interests.
they were very very close & always worked together in the ministry.
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alanv
It does make since. I think the best thing any of us can do is engage in foreign travel if possable. It really opens your mind to what it is really like in other countries.
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Google predicts search - Jehovah's Witnesses mentally diseased
by slimboyfat inhave others noticed that if you enter "jehovah's witnesses" into a google search that the first alternative it predicts is "jehovah's witnesses mentally diseased"?.
i use firefox and am in the uk, if that makes a difference.. does that mean that "jehovah's witnesses mentally diseased" is currently the most popular jw related search?
if so i wonder how many of those searches are by jehovah's witnesses prompted by media exposure of the issue?.
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alanv
I have just typed in Jehovah's witnesses and the first few sites are the societies own. I then typed the same in and added 'in UK' and abot 4 searches down there was the mentally diseased link to a British newspaper article about it.
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What Is the longest Prayer (Meeting, Circuit Assymbly, District, Internation.) You have endured?
by AvocadoJake inplace los angeles dodger stadium temperature 97-100 degrees.
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prayer lenght 25 minutes of pain!.
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alanv
The society and even local elders use prayers as a way of drilling in the main points of a meeting or an assembly. It is a part of the indoctrination process.
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Had a Frustrating Discussion with Mom...
by tenyearsafter inmy 80 something year old mom is a die hard jw, but to her credit, she has not shunned me.
as would be expected, she is always "praying" that i return to jah and get reinstated.
is consistent...every time my wife and i see her, she always tries to steer the conversation to "how bad the world" has become.. today, she escalated the "theocratic attack" by coming out directly and asking me what i thought of world conditions.
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alanv
Hi tenyearsafter, there is a very good website called the good news network. It is nothing to do with religion, it simply prints articles from round the world of all the good things that are happening. I use it regularly when talking to any JW, because as you say they like to go on about the bad things. Here is a link for anyone interested.
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Should I Return?
by Darth Rutherford inwe all are at different stages in our journey from the watchtower organization.
some of us have been free for years, and some of us are at that moment of initial discovery.
as for me, though i began to conscientiously fade just a few months ago, my discovery actually began years ago - even while serving as an elder.. i have no illusions that this journey will be easy.
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alanv
Hi Darth, It's not easy for anyone to leave but especially an elder or mini servant. I faded 15 years ago successfully and the witnesses never call at my house now. Then a few years ago my grown up son joined and simply would not listen to anything I told him about the org. That was hard to deal with. But I am so glad I did leave, because like you I could no longer live a lie.