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  Lots of Good News everybody!

  by OneDayillBeFree in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  you know one of the reasons why some witnesses decide to stay inside is to help others wake up and leave as well, and although this hasnt been exactly a goal of mine, it was something i'd ponder every now and again.

  and we all know that it is not easy to get to jw's when they are fully mind controlled.

  but i'd like to tell you guys what's been happening with brothers and sisters without the help of others who know ttatt.... so last night i got a phone call from a brother who's a good friend of mine whom i've talked about in the past here.

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  alanv

  Thanks for that oneday. Yer you are right, it does give us hope. Those of us who have family in have to tread so carefully so as we do not allienate then completely. There is so much going wrong with the org at the moment, I'm sure most of us cannot understand why witnesses stay in. Let's hope many more walk away and start a new life of freedom as we have done.
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  The Very Latest Candace Conti vs. The Watchtower News

  by God_Delusion in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  we all saw this coming - http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/jw-lawsuits/latest-candace-conti-news/.

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  alanv

  As i commented directly on Ceders article, the society have no trouble not telling the truth about their finances. They use theocratic war strategy. If they think someone does not deserve the truth, then they will withold it and say something different. They view it as a war against Jehovah, and they must win it what ever it takes.
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  Latest magazines

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i read the latest magazines, paticularly the awake on higher education.

  it has been some years since i read the magazines and i was gob smacked.

  there is clearly a new approach in writing.

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  alanv

  Well at least from Jan 1st the public magazines will be reduced to 16 pages each
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  Can the Borg close down a Kingdom Hall because of low attendance?

  by Heartofaboy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the land for our hall was given to the congregation by a local brother.. the contribution box was overflowing with gifts of money from the brothers & sisters in the congregation when they knew we were going to have our 'own' hall at last.. we built it ourselves with help from brothers & sisters that donated their time & skills.

  we had a small loan from the borg to help us finish the project & this was paid off very quickly.. that must be 25 years ago now.. we were told by circuit overseers we would be blessed if we had our own hall & that the fine witness would bring many people in to the 'truth'.. it didn't.. we were never a big congregation, however when attendance went down to below 30 a couple of years ago, the circuit overseers wanted to close the hall down.. the elders protested & the hall is still being used.. can the borg close down a kingdom hall they haven't built & keep the proceeds?.

  why doesn't it belong to the people that paid for it?.

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  alanv

  Thanks for that Quendi. Very interesting. So presumably if a congregation is geting good attendance, the hall is safe from the societies hands.

  Are you saying any time the local cong wants to borrow any money from the society, maybe to build a bigger hall, they can as long as the societies name goes on the deeds.

  Do you know approx what percent of kingdom halls would have the societies name on the deeds?

  Thanks
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  UK Hospital Drama Features Blood Issue This Evening

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  holby city this evening, starts in 20 minutes.. .

  "mo and jac are divided over a medical dilemma involving a jehovah's witness who insists on having a bloodless operation - but it soon becomes clear that is not the only problem ...".

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  alanv

  For those in UK that have not seen it, you can catch up with it on the I player until Monday night
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  Babylon the Great book - This really is the truth! No one could make this up.

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  an experience told at the october 2, 2010 annual meeting.. sarah: she was raised in the truth by her mom in california, but a turning point was when she was 11. she had planned on just swimming and taking it easy that summer, but her mother suggested that she should read one of the older publications, and she chose babylon the great has fallen.

  after working through some heavy-duty prophecies, she recalled thinking, this really is the truth!

  no one could make this up.

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  alanv

  It's funny, that was probably what made me realize how wrong the religion was. The society decided that certain bible time lengths applied to various assembies somewhere, and also the 7 plagues on mankind where they have a go at everybody apart from JWs.
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  Is any one paid in the organization?

  by ecuador in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi, i am learning about jws, and would like to know if any of their leaders, circuit overseers, district overseers, etc.

  are paid.

  also, who owns the kingdom hall buildings and furnishings in them?

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  alanv

  The Watchtower leaders although only having a small money allowance, get everything paid for them. They get free accommadaion, free utility bills, free health insurance, free car and free worldwide holidays. Plus they are given 'green handshakes' fairly regularly.

  Certainly not living in any poverty.
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  Recent JW news report from the media, which is controlled by Satan...

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2upjotkjojw.

  i should add that, even though the media is under satan's control, the governing body may use it at their discretion as-and-when they wish.. .

  (bearing witness, page 110).

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  alanv

  Is interesting how the report quotes the "organizers" as claiming that the "church population" grew "by 3 to 4% this year", even though (1) the figures for this year (2012) have yet to be released, and (2) the figures for LAST year show growth in America of 3%, which was rounded up from an actual figure of 2.68% - hardly "3 to 4%". Maybe we can put this exaggeration down to "theocratic warfare".

  If I remember rightly the society added and included the total publishers from Hawaii in last years USA increase. This was not an increase, as those publishers had been around for years. So the actual USA average publishers in fact worked out at 1.9%
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  Heading soccer balls, wearing designer clothes, and driving hybrid vehicles - all condemned in the latest Awake

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those who are interested, the november 2012 awake!

  is now available for download online.. among items of possible interest are some of the latest examples of fear-mongering "armageddon art" on pages 12 and 14.... .

  speaking of armageddon, you will be sad to hear that the criteria for surviving the great day of god's wrath just got a little more stringent.. there are a number of extra things in this month's awake!

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  alanv

  Here in the uk where we play cricket, all pro's where a helmet. When you have a hard ball coming at you at 90 mph it really is necessary to where a helmet.
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  changes in NWT

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey all,.

  i saw a discussion on yahoo answers about changes in the nwt.

  i watchtower apologist posted a long list of commendations made regarding the nwt.. i thought we could have some fun picking this apart.. one in particular was a comment made by rolf furuli.

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  alanv

  OK I will kick off. Take a look at this video to see what some emminent scholers actually say about the NWT, including Dr Bruce Metzger mentioned above

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d_VuNJGbKs