The point is Russell and his cronies felt this was the time of trouble that would lead to Armaggeddon. It did not. It had nothing to do with God taking action against the nations. It just turned out to be an extra large war. If it had been God's war, all nations would have ended in destruction, as it was, many nations were not part of the world war, and most of them lived to fight another day. This was not what Russell expected and spoke of at all.
Posts by alanv
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78Another Lie/Revisionist History in todays WT study!!
by BU2B ini caught yet another revisionist history deception in todays wt lesson.. .
here is a quote from paragraph 4 of the 2/15/13 study edition.
"decades before 1914, jehovah's worshippers declared to the nations that the end of "the appointed times of the nations" would come in that year and that the world would enter into an unequaled period of trouble.".
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July 2013 Watchtower "Should You Trust Religion?"
by ilikecheese ini read this article while i was looking at the other magazine you guys were talking about.
they were being really stupid and generalizing about the other religions they were talking about again.
my favorite bit was where someone was saying that they went to a church that passed the offering plate around three times and that they were expected to put money in it each time.
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alanv
Like everything in JW land you only ever here half the story. Of course there are some churches that are money crazy, but many others who are totally spiritual and unmaterialstic.
Just like there are some Kingdom Halls that talk more about money than others. Dont forget as well that JWs have several different contribution boxes that you are asked to contribute to if you can. Even providing cash machines at some assemblies apparantly.
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ROLF HARRIS - Sex abuse arrest 19/4/13
by *lost* inanother one - as a result of the jimmy saville abuse cover-up.
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alanv
We dont know too many details yet, but I really hope he was nothing like Jimmy Saville.
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Watchtower encourages children to shun DF parents.
by Azazel inhey guys just wondering if anyone can recall a recent watchtower ( maybe a year ago ) that had an article aimed at minor children on dealing with a disfellowshipped parent.
ive had a dive thru jw.org but coudnt find it before i wanted to vomit.
can anyone help recall what issue it was.
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alanv
Try this article by Brenda Lee
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End of the world prophecy - Why pertinent to now? Nothing will happen, I assure you!
by punkofnice inplease let me rant then i'll go back and read my spider-man comics.. why do those that promote end of time prophecy have to make it all current?.
i guess if we were told at the book of revelation for eg, (whatever chapter and verse), is for 3,000 years time i'd be surprised......and there's no money in it.
believers would be discouraged methinks.. it seems to me that all this apocalypse now stuff is just to give our turgid lives excitement.
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alanv
Totally agree. I get so pissed off when every generation of so called christians look round the world and say how terrible conditions are and that it shows we are in the last days. Guys we have never had it so good. Of course there are still problems that need sorting out but generally many, many people are far better off than they were a generation ago. End of my rant as well
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"The Truth That Leads To Eternal Life" book
by smiddy inif i remember correctly there were more than 100 million books distributed around the world in the the 1960`s.. and if i remember correctly it was listed amongst the ten most distributed/published books by the guiness book of records .. and if i`m not mistaken "paradise lost to paradise regained" was also on this list.
and even in one year about that time their were no less than four of the societys publications on the 10 most distributed books ever.
at that time.. how much of what was printed in those publications then, is relevant to what is beleived today.
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alanv
The whole reason the book came out was because there was no time any more to go through bigger books. It was small and concise, and witnesses were told to stop studying with anyone who had not made any significant progress after 6 months. Much of the book dealt with the 'proofs' that we were living at the very end of the last days. So did the book proove true? No it was totally false. So much so that the society had to change the wording of some quotes, because they too proved to be false. A complete work of fiction.
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EVERY GOVERNING BODY MEMBER WENT DOOR TO DOOR 8 HOURS TODAY!
by ÁrbolesdeArabia in.
belated april fools!
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alanv
Haha you got me too. Seemed so unlikely I had to read about it lol
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North Korea - U.S - War ?
by *lost* inthings look to be hotting up here.
scary.. what are the chances of it all kicking off ?.
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alanv
Just heard that USA dropped dummy bomb over Korea just for practice. Not the brightest thing to do I would have thought.
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Romans 13:1 Russian opposition
by sidex in.
hello, yes my question is not settled.. and i want to repeat it.
who knows about the different groups of jehovah's witnesses in the united states.. when and where were the division and what reasons..
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alanv
I imagine most on here have no idea what you are talking about, so maybe explain to us what you want to know
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First mention of "new light" may appear in July 15, 2013 Watchtower
by cedars ina trusted source informs me that the "new light" about the faithful slave is to make its first printed appearance in the july 15th watchtower, which should be available for download online three weeks from now, on around april 15th.. i'm led to believe that the references to the new understanding are made in such a manner as to suggest the "new light" isn't that new at all, which suggests to me that little or no effort is being made to explain the doctrinal connotations.
my source and i are hoping to get a key paragraph posted at the earliest opportunity.
watch this space!.
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alanv
Totally ADD that is so true, and really what I was trying to say earlier. Apparantly it is not just witnesses that get excited about all this. It is many on this site too.