I had been practicing immorality as a mini servant and no one new about it. I only confessed to it when I realized the elders were thinking of appointing me as an elder and I did not want that. No holy spirit anywhere to be seen.
Posts by alanv
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31USA, Oklahoma | Jehovah's Witness church elder Ronald Lawrence arrested over sex abuse claims dating back to 1980s
by jwleaks inusa, oklahoma | jehovah's witness church elder ronald lawrence arrested over sex abuse claims dating back to the 1980's.
a 76-year-old mcalester man was arrested tuesday on 19 counts of sexual abuse after police received claims he molested several children while in a position of authority more than 30 years ago.. mcalester police detectives were alerted to the alleged sexual crimes conducted by ronald lawrence back in august when his first accuser reported abuse at the hands of a jehovah's witness church leader.. a woman now in her 40s told detectives lawrence, an elder at mcalester's kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses, abused her when she was just eight years old, inviting her to his home, where he fondled her and raped her in his bathtub, according to her testimony found in lawrence's arrest warrant, which was issued tuesday.. two other accusers, also in their 40s, then came forward with similar stories of abuse.
both said they were very young, with one telling investigators the molestation took place from the time she was 10 until she was 13 years old.
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USA, Oklahoma | Jehovah's Witness church elder Ronald Lawrence arrested over sex abuse claims dating back to 1980s
by jwleaks inusa, oklahoma | jehovah's witness church elder ronald lawrence arrested over sex abuse claims dating back to the 1980's.
a 76-year-old mcalester man was arrested tuesday on 19 counts of sexual abuse after police received claims he molested several children while in a position of authority more than 30 years ago.. mcalester police detectives were alerted to the alleged sexual crimes conducted by ronald lawrence back in august when his first accuser reported abuse at the hands of a jehovah's witness church leader.. a woman now in her 40s told detectives lawrence, an elder at mcalester's kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses, abused her when she was just eight years old, inviting her to his home, where he fondled her and raped her in his bathtub, according to her testimony found in lawrence's arrest warrant, which was issued tuesday.. two other accusers, also in their 40s, then came forward with similar stories of abuse.
both said they were very young, with one telling investigators the molestation took place from the time she was 10 until she was 13 years old.
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alanv
Data dog. There was nothing magical about his appointment. The elders simply went by the qualifications laid down in the bible. As it is believed the bible was written under inspiration of the holy spirit they can say he was appointed by holy spirit. Does that mean he was a pure and honest man when he was appointed? Not necessarily, there could have been all sorts of things he kept quiet about and no one else new. So yes a man can certainly be appointed even though he has a lot of hidden guilty secrets.
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Who kills more trees? Wt vs. power company?
by DS211 ini have to share an interesting experience with my wife this morning (not a bedroom story...sinners ;-)).. we were driving to work and my wife asked why they havent changed the wooden power poles to concrete.. me: well i think they change them as they start to give out.. wife: but they kill so many trees doing this!!!!
why wouldnt they figure that out?.
(what i wanted to say)me: how many trees do the watchtower kill printing magazines and bibles????.
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alanv
Considering the Watchtower and Awake are the most circulated magazines in the world, there is no doubt they are one of the main culprits. It is only recently that they have cut back on the paper they use, by having smaller magazines and not printing them so often. Plus much info is now online so the circulation may well fall even further. But certainly for decades they have been responsable for the destruction of millions of trees.
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Jehovah's Witnesses MOST FEARED VIDEO 220,000 views
by Watchtower-Free in220,000 views.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id18qonjzu4.
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alanv
Yes I agree with the others. There are not enough similarities for it to connect with a JW. For a start the society did not say a specific month. Most times even 1975 was not mentioned as the time when everything would be done and dusted. Also the paster did not change any doctrines that were wrong, whereas JWs will say that they have gradually been getting rid of wrong doctrine.
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Meeting for those wishing to be appointed
by PrincessCynic ini heard recently that a nearby congregation which some of my family attend are having this.
basically the elders are arranging an open meeting with all those who would like to be appointed.
is this happening everywhere?
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alanv
I guess there could be good reason for having such a meeting in some areas. If brothers are really showing little interest in taking a position, this is going to affect the congregation, and they are going to start losing members and dollars.
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What is the best for the child if father knows TTATT and mother is a devout JW?
by Daniel1555 inhi friends.
i would like to know your opinion on the following:.
situation:.
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alanv
Thanks Kate. I know the expression but never saw it abbreviated.
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WT gearing up to dump Russell and come clean on early history?
by Comatose inwe've discussed this on lots of threads, but i've noticed a few things lately.
they seem to be talking about the early days on a very regular basis, almost constantly.
the change to fds happens and this involved a dive into early history and a few knocks on russell.
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alanv
I think that is a really good point. It is damage control. If the society just mention something that went wrong at least the sheep will be aware of it and can say that to anyone who mentions it. It will all be put down to new light, and the sheep are quite happy with that explanation.
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What is the best for the child if father knows TTATT and mother is a devout JW?
by Daniel1555 inhi friends.
i would like to know your opinion on the following:.
situation:.
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alanv
I have no idea what TTATT means, but certainly I would not want any child brought up as a JW. You can instill good morals into kids without the massive downside of following all the JW rules and regulations, and the massive lack of love if that kid decides to leave sometime in the future.
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Brother Russell's View of Asking For Money At Church "We are opposed to all forms of begging--whether by word, insinuation, by hints" for Money!
by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker inthis is out of the 1894 watchtower where brother russell and brother rogers had failed to see eye to eye over how the preaching work in england should evolve.
russell wanted rogers to keep pushing literature "dawn books" and rogers wanted to be a preacher and get a stipend.
the watchtower was used by russell and others to bias their readers views and force ideas to people he claimed were free of organization.
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alanv
I think it is worth reminding ourselves that the society now only regard Russell as a keen bible student. He was not a channell of commuinication that God was using. They will probably point out that he got some things wrong and some things right. Therefore there will be differences to what he said at the time and what the society say now. So although this can't come under the heading of new light, it does show that Russell's private view was not the same as the societies now.
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Jw's: Who do you identify as the FDS?
by snare&racket inwho do you think is the fds on earth today?.
barely any jw can point at a gb member by face, fewer can name the governing body, fewer know these men in person or can account for them as people.
not one person became a jw from reading matthew 24 and saying 'aha!'.
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alanv
No idea why snare thinks you would be disfellowshipped for not knowing the lastest new light on FADS being the governing body. They would only be kicked out if they did not accept the new teaching when they were made aware of it and then actively tried to persuade other JWs that the interpretation was wrong.