Posts by alanv

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Does this Site get more Newbies than WTS gets Baptisms?

by skeeter1 in

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just wondering on whether jwn gets more newbies that the wts gets bapstisms?

are there any statistics?.

this site's newbies usually lurk for a month or two, with no interaction with us.

alanv

Watchtower has plenty of baptisms. Trouble is as they come in the front door two thirds of the rest go out the back door lol

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Sneaky introduction advice from Dec KM

by Splash in

it says on page 1 par.

3 in the q&a item.

"where people belong to a non-christian religion, or to no religion at all, it may be better to mention the bible on a return visit, rather than at the outset.

Ray Franz the ex governing body member said that when missionaries were sent to new lands who had several different religions, they should start of with the 'Christian religions', presumabily because it would be a lot easier to convert them.

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I found a new FB/YouTube group and this lady knocked me out she's good

by RayPublisher in

i found a new fb/youtube group and this lady knocked me out she's good.

in this video there's a snippet that is priceless.

make sure you watch up through the montage starting at 21:30!

alanv

Totally agree this lady is a good speaker, but it really is no good showing all the mistakes that Charles Russell made. Since last October the society have openly stated that Russell was not being used as God's channel of communication. They say he was a keen bible student and got many things right. But they will also now admit he got many things wrong, which is fine in their book because he was not chosen or used by God to dispense spiritual truths.

I think too if you were to ask someone high up in the organisation, they would say that spirit directed means that JWs use the spirit inspired bible as their guide. It's like I once asked a circuit Overseer, how are the elders said to be appointed by holy spirit, and the answer was because they meet the requirements laid out in the bible. So no invisable force helping them just the fact the bible was written by men guided by God

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Number of anointed partakers in new yearbook?

by JWOP in

i haven't seen the 2014 yearbook on the jw site yet.

i'm looking to see if the number of partakers has increased again (as it has for many years now).

anyone have a scan of it yet?.

alanv

The thing is, the gov body have it covered now if it does go up. They openly say there could be ones who partake who do not fully understand what it means, and that it does not matter if it goes up or down. God knows who the real annointed are!

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JW morale reaching new low

by kneehighmiah in

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many friends i've spoken with are becoming discouraged.

because of this it's becoming tempting to privately share my views with friends, but i know this is still too dangerous.

most witnesses in my circle are intelligent free thinkers.

alanv

If we are talking about the overlapping generation, surely that is not new, and has been previously discussed in the Watchtower.

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I sent my DA letter in yesterday.

by quellycatface in

feel like i've been in a car accident and i'm on the road to recovery....i wonder what will happen next??

my husband, (non jw) says he would'nt be surprised if they df'd me as one or two elders are quite spiteful.

can they can't fire me cos i quit, surely??.

alanv

They probably like it more when someone disassociates themselves, because there is no doubt then that the individual does not want to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses any more, and that is what is read out at the kingdom hall.

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Proper grammar and "This Generation"

by Crazyguy in

i was never good at spelling and probably worse at grammar.

so if jesus really ment that the phrase "this generation" was an over lapping of generations then what would of been the proper way of saying it, if at all????

?.

alanv

All anyone has to do is read the scripture in context. I think a 10 year old would be able to understand its meaning.

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Who kills more trees? Wt vs. power company?

by DS211 in

i have to share an interesting experience with my wife this morning (not a bedroom story...sinners ;-)).. we were driving to work and my wife asked why they havent changed the wooden power poles to concrete.. me: well i think they change them as they start to give out.. wife: but they kill so many trees doing this!!!!

why wouldnt they figure that out?.

(what i wanted to say)me: how many trees do the watchtower kill printing magazines and bibles????.

alanv

Hi fact finder I must admit I forgot about newspapers that are printed every day in their millions, but I gueess apart from newspapers the Watchtower must be one of the biggest users.

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USA, Oklahoma | Jehovah's Witness church elder Ronald Lawrence arrested over sex abuse claims dating back to 1980s

by jwleaks in

usa, oklahoma | jehovah's witness church elder ronald lawrence arrested over sex abuse claims dating back to the 1980's.

a 76-year-old mcalester man was arrested tuesday on 19 counts of sexual abuse after police received claims he molested several children while in a position of authority more than 30 years ago.. mcalester police detectives were alerted to the alleged sexual crimes conducted by ronald lawrence back in august when his first accuser reported abuse at the hands of a jehovah's witness church leader.. a woman now in her 40s told detectives lawrence, an elder at mcalester's kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses, abused her when she was just eight years old, inviting her to his home, where he fondled her and raped her in his bathtub, according to her testimony found in lawrence's arrest warrant, which was issued tuesday.. two other accusers, also in their 40s, then came forward with similar stories of abuse.

both said they were very young, with one telling investigators the molestation took place from the time she was 10 until she was 13 years old.

alanv

I had been practicing immorality as a mini servant and no one new about it. I only confessed to it when I realized the elders were thinking of appointing me as an elder and I did not want that. No holy spirit anywhere to be seen.

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USA, Oklahoma | Jehovah's Witness church elder Ronald Lawrence arrested over sex abuse claims dating back to 1980s

by jwleaks in

usa, oklahoma | jehovah's witness church elder ronald lawrence arrested over sex abuse claims dating back to the 1980's.

a 76-year-old mcalester man was arrested tuesday on 19 counts of sexual abuse after police received claims he molested several children while in a position of authority more than 30 years ago.. mcalester police detectives were alerted to the alleged sexual crimes conducted by ronald lawrence back in august when his first accuser reported abuse at the hands of a jehovah's witness church leader.. a woman now in her 40s told detectives lawrence, an elder at mcalester's kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses, abused her when she was just eight years old, inviting her to his home, where he fondled her and raped her in his bathtub, according to her testimony found in lawrence's arrest warrant, which was issued tuesday.. two other accusers, also in their 40s, then came forward with similar stories of abuse.

both said they were very young, with one telling investigators the molestation took place from the time she was 10 until she was 13 years old.

alanv

Data dog. There was nothing magical about his appointment. The elders simply went by the qualifications laid down in the bible. As it is believed the bible was written under inspiration of the holy spirit they can say he was appointed by holy spirit. Does that mean he was a pure and honest man when he was appointed? Not necessarily, there could have been all sorts of things he kept quiet about and no one else new. So yes a man can certainly be appointed even though he has a lot of hidden guilty secrets.