Thanks Viva. I noticed just after I posted that this was not just USA. 2013 service year showed USA 2,504,114 Puerto Rico 57,893 Jamaica 37133 and Turks and Caicos 1,242 and Bermuda 1,088. Total of 2,601,470 against 2014 figure of 2,610,810. Plus any other countries I have missed out. So actuallty looks like no increase at all. Great news.
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October 2014 Kingdom Ministry (KM - 10/2014 PDF)
by WatchTower87 inour kingdom ministry october 2014 .
instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.
no virus ;-).
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October 2014 Kingdom Ministry (KM - 10/2014 PDF)
by WatchTower87 inour kingdom ministry october 2014 .
instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.
no virus ;-).
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alanv
Looks like a 4% rise in memorial attendance in the USA. Not good news
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JWs getting "Footloose" at the Kingdom Hall
by AndDontCallMeShirley ini hope no one here get's injured when they see this and their jaw hits the floor:.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=689701664435095&set=vb.100001858044479&type=2&theater.
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alanv
Wow how the might have fallen. So much for the kingdom hall being an exclusive place of worship. One more example of the JWs going mainstream.
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Is the number of JWs leaving increasing?
by dozy ini don't mean jws getting stumbled or bored or getting dfd for immorality- there always have been a certain number of those all the time.. i've been out for a few years now but am curious to know from "still ins" if there is any evidence of increasing numbers of people leaving for classic "apostate" reasons - ie either fading or getting dfd because they have done research & realise that this isn't "the truth".. when i was a jw occasionally i would hear of someone suddenly stopping going to meetings & hearing through the grapevine & jw gossip mill that the person no longer believed it was the truth or had expressed doubts in the "slave" etc.
but it didn't happen very often ( though it was increasing somewhat in the years before i left).. one would imagine with the internet & increased information available to all that this would be happening more often.
any evidence of this , anecdotally?
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alanv
Although many may get disfellowshipped for immorality, that is only because they no longer believe it is the truth, so they feel it is ok to continue in immorality. It is very unlikely that those that get kicked out for that still believe everything the gov body says is true. Otherwise they would be repentant and not get disfellowshipped.
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Beards......the CO allowed this one!
by punkofnice ina minny man in a local congregation has a beard...he was bullied by the elders to remove it.. then the co came along and told the elders to allow him to keep his beard.
(not as the result of any skin condition or anything).. i kid you not!!!.
what do you make of that?.
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alanv
The Watchtower is becoming much more mainstream now. The result is that some things are allowed and some are not.
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Is sex abuse in the Wt that big of a problem
by joe134cd inbefore i start, i'm not a wt apologist and i am certainly not trying to minimise sex abuse.
i was looking at the amount of sex abuse cases in light of witness population.
just say wt ended up on paying out on 30,000 individual abuse cases.
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alanv
It may well be the same percentage wise, but the problem is the Watchtower just do not admit there is even a slight problem. The pope came right out and admitted it, the governing body would never do that.
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Blood Transfusions - What are the risks?
by Lee Elder inthis is a new article that we've just published:.
http://ajwrb.org/blood-transfusions-what-are-the-risks.
lee elder.
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alanv
I believe the Watchtower can say all that was quoted earlier because they will just say the witness has decided themselves not to be a witness any more. So the Watchtower are not taking anything away or taking any action. They will simply say that the individual agreed to accept all the Watchtower doctrines at his or her baptism. If they later decide they dont want to any more, then that is their decision.
Very crafty of course but its hard to argue against that.
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Interesting talk with an uber dub relative today
by joe134cd inmy relative asked me a question today of why half the witnesses in this country had to travel to the opposite end of the country to attend a convention, when in some areas it would of been closer to attend a convention that was only 3.5 hours up the road.
i replied by saying the society could be getting some sort of benefits if they can prove they can bring x amount of dollars into the city.
she replied by saying they would never do that.
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alanv
Haha got to laugh when you say just three and a half hours up the road. I take it you are not in the UK where two hour travelling would be quite enough
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Seriously considering stepping down as Elder
by fader77 ini have been an elder for 6 years.
it's been the last 2 years or so that i've really seen the hypocrisy, but the ability to know the shenanigans of the society through the body of elders letters has kind of kept me in there.
i'm to the point now that i can't stand the hatred and bitterness that the body of elders has towards myself and my whole family.
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alanv
I stepped down from being a mini servant because I could see the next step would be for me to become an elder and like fader I just knew there was so much wrong in the org. In time I was able to fade and so was able to keep in touch with my JW family members. Best decision I ever made.
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Our Kingdom Ministry September 2014 PDF
by WatchTower87 inour kingdom ministry september 2014 pdf.
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no virus ;-).
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alanv
Wow the governing body are getting desperate. Just looked at the increase in regular pioneers and while the usa is quite impressive the high percentage increases in the smaller countries actually equates to most of them being under 10 extra people from each of those lands. Certainly nothing to shout about when you think there are 8 million JWs worldwide.