Maybe some said 'if you dont come up from the water, remember there is the resurrection'
Posts by alanv
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5Baptismal Formula
by leftbehind inquick question.
does anybody know what is said during the baptism i.e.
the actual dunking?
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2017 Sunday RC Final Talk & Comments About 1975
by baldeagle inmany of us here have commented on the deceitful friday afternoon video shown at the 2017 rc that discussed 1975.. the video attempted to shift the blame onto congregation members for the fiasco saying, "some were looking to a certain date as signifying the end of this old system of things.".
this same video mentions how, “a few even went so far as selling their homes and quitting their jobs.”.
we all know that the wt leadership created this teaching and endorsed it right up to its abject failure.. now below is the concluding talk given on sunday at the rc.
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alanv
The further we get from 1975, the more the org can safely talk about it if they need to, as so many from that time are no longer around. But luckily todays retired generation are around and we can show very clearly from the orgs own literature how it was them, not the witnesses themselves that grew all the excitement about the end coming. Food at the proper time? What a joke.
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7 day conventions?
by HereIgo indid any of you attend the old school week long conventions?
i have heard stories and it seems like these were mostly in the 70's and 80's before my time.
i couldn't imagine.
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alanv
I think by 1969 it was just 4 days. I cant even imagine being there for more than that
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Judge acts to limit Watchtower's influence on child.
by Lee Elder ina judge in the uk has ordered strict limits on a jw father's ability to let the watchtower indoctrinate his child.
not sure if this is precedent setting, but i think the judge is spot on.
the reasons are explained in the article.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/11/jehovahs-witness-agrees-not-show-son-religious-cartoons-risk/.
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alanv
A really good decision from the judge. It is totally wrong that young children are exposed to these vile videos.
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UK Child banned from seeing JW videos
by usualusername1 inhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/11/jehovahs-witness-agrees-not-show-son-religious-cartoons-risk/.
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alanv
This is really good news, and hopefully many other families that are split will get the same help. Certainly many of the videos aimed at children can cause them very bad emotional damage.
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Day One Lowlights
by FedUpJW intoo much crap to keep track of, but a few low lights of day one of the regional convention stuck out.
in no particular time sequence here is some of what i managed to hold down.. tight pants yapped on in the opening part about a three part theme to conventions.
part 1 was in 2016, part 2 is this year, and part 3 is in the works for 2018. i guess the big a isn't coming for a couple more years, at least.. then it was really stressed that all good dubs must always be prepared to "witness" by carrying jay double you, dot org calling cards, and of course wear your id card for the convention at all times, and all places.. next was the strong statement that the purpose of the carts/trolleys is not to place literature, it is to direct people of the public to "our" web site!
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alanv
'Next was the strong statement that the purpose of the carts/trolleys is NOT to place literature, it is to direct people of the public to "our" web site! '
Probably said because very little literature is placed from these carts, so the next best thing is let the societies website have a go at them instead
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Just ordered the book Crisis of Conscience
by CitizenofEarth inhello there.. i just ordered the book coc, and will son recieve it.
does anyone have anything you want to mention about the book - perhaps some things you stumbled upon that might help me understand something more?
or maybe you have any thoughts you want to share regarding the book?
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alanv
The whole book is amazing, and I too found it hard to put down. It is crammed with information about what goes on behind the scenes in New York.
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alanv
The bigger picture, is that JWs make full use of any tragedy to promote the end of wickedness doctrine. They want to put across that the whole world is wicked and will soon be destroyed. Some people people are very vulnerable at times like this, and the Watchtower know that some will accept their doomsday message.
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Apostasy endorsed in this yesterday's Watchtower Study
by doubtfull1799 in“there may be occasions when it would be good for us to reconsider a choice or decision.
it could be when the prevailing circumstances change.
jehovah altered his decision at times when circumstances changed.
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alanv
Watchtower have proved over the years that they can change anything and the sheep will still follow. It is only thanks to the internet that they are now starting to go downhill fast
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How serious is sexting
by Homer notsimpson insome of y'all may know why i am asking this, but i am curious about it.. sexting in the elders book says it's enough to warrant a jc but it's very loose at it... what's y'all opinion?
do elders care alot of it?
what if it's an old case?
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alanv
In the UK it is a criminal offence to sext with anyone under the age of 16. Was clearly shown in a weekly drama we have called Eastenders where an 18 year old sent an explicit picture of himself to a girl who he did not realize was only14. He got a criminal record, and it was reported in the papers, so some people literally shunned him