Thanks Black Sheep, I had no idea there was so much info about the JWs and all the other religions in the pew report. Very interesting stats. I wish we could see some of these stats from other countries. Far as I know USA is the only country that goes into this much detail.
Posts by alanv
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19Publisher numbers versus baptised witnesses.
by amandm ini grew up as a witness, and left about 10 years ago, i'm currently researching witness numbers for a project i'm working on, and i can't seem to get an accurate number of baptised witnesses - hardly a surprise!
from their website it looks like they list the number of publishers instead of the number of baptised witnesses, so it totally works to obscure how many actual witnesses there are, apart from the fact it's morally dubious to class a publisher as a minister of god as they refer to publishers on their uk section of the site.
i also am trying to work out how many leave every year, even approximate figures would be great, from their own website it just looks like they try to massage figures to make them look as favourable as possible.
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14 kids from the same old congregation
by StephaneLaliberte inthis week, while talking with some old friends, i realized that there were at least 14 kids from a congregation in which i grew up that all left the jws.
that is, 30 to 35 years ago, there were at least 14 kids going to the hall that were of the same “generation” (5 to 13 years old).
in the last 30 years, they have all left “the truth”.
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alanv
I think once we all start thinking about the kids we knew when we were in, we will soon realize that as the pew report shows 66% of them have left the org during their adulthood. It is one of the most mobile religions on the planet. I must make that point to the jdubs next time they call.
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Interested in a refresher about the anointed
by frozen2018 ini've had very little to do with jw's since the early 1990's.
however, i do try to stay a little informed on what they are up to as i have several close relatives who are devout.
i rely on this site to keep me updated.. over the weekend i learned that a couple of my relatives, a father and son, have decided that they are anointed and had some bread and wine at the last memorial.
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alanv
If memory serves me right, the 1935 date has gone. They said something like they cant put a date on it. They still say some have replacements, but also say some who partake of the bread and wine, may have mental problems lol
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It is on my local news - Silent No More
by Tameria2001 ini had a pop up on my phone from my local news (40/29 fayetteville, ar) and they are covering the jehovah's witness and the sexual abuse.
here are the links.. silent no more: the survivors.
silent no more: the verdicts.
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alanv
I am from the UK and cannot access the links above!
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Walked away from bible study after 8 months
by Biblestudent1 ini have been working through the grey book with a married couple for several months.
actually after a while what happened was a different brother or sister got invited each week to my study.
i met lots and lots.
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alanv
It was good that the poster listed the good and bad points about being a witness. Certainly there are some good things about the religion, its just that they are nothing compared to the bad things.
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Will directing people to jw.org actually prove counter productive?
by eyeslice2 inthere was a time when the society was very skeptical about the internet and the so-called lies and apostate information that was out there.
it sort of was something to be avoided.
over the past ten years, however, it seems they have taken to it with a passion.
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alanv
The org is unrecognisable for most of us now. Not so many years ago we were taught very carefully what answers to give people on any one subject that may come up on the doors. Now the members have no idea how to counter the many questions that they are asked. So for them its a great cop out to simply say to the householder, go to jwdotorg where all your questions will be answered.
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2019 Cart Witnessing Aggression Letter and Instructions!
by Atlantis injust in case you were looking for this one.. 2019-07-10-witnessing cart aggression letter and instructions.
https://docdro.id/s6jtyi6.
credit goes to average joe.
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alanv
I am astounded that Watchtower are telling the JWs to lie to police. The letter says to tell the police that the carts are their property and not the congregations. As someone said, just see what happens if you try and sell a cart on ebay.
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If You Could Pick Just One Title Of A Song That Would Describe Your Life
by The Bethelite inwhat would it be?.
mine would be "rocket man" by elton john.
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alanv
I'm Free by the Who
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This Forum is used by Bethel rodents to address member doubts in future magazine studies
by Tenacious indon't you find it interesting how some topics and explanations on this board are sometimes addressed in magazine studies?.
for example, i remember commenting (i'm sure it had been mentioned many times before) not too long ago about how the organization uses the "spirit led" phrase in their baptism question.
and this naturally tells members they are indeed claiming divine guidance.
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alanv
They have said for years they were not inspired like the bible writers. Also they have said elders are appointed by holy spirit simply because they have to meet the bibles requirements which were written under inspiration. This explains of course why some elders were found to be hiding some hidden sins like child abuse, simply because they would good at hiding it.
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Compensation Figures
by diamondblue1974 inwithout going into the details here i’ve had a renewed call to take direct action and preparing to protest at a convention very soon.. where could i find the figures paid out by the wts to survivors of abuse in their organisation?
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alanv
Yes very important to have the correct figures. Otherwise you leave the way open for the jdubs to dismiss all you say, even though 95% of it could well be true.