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  Worldwide Service Report for 2010 / Yearbook 2011

  by Designer Stubble in

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  wonder if anyone had a scan available of the 2010 annual report, which can normally be found in the 2011 yearbook.. .

  thanks in advance!.

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  alanv

  David I agree with much of what you say. However we already know from independant sources that the JW religion is one of the most mobile in the world. It is reliabaly reported that two thirds of those brought up in the religion leave during their adulthood. So the facts already show that many leave.

  I think the figures I stated are reasonable. The only thing I didn't include was the approx 1% who die each year. So if those figures are repeated year on year the only conclusion would be that they were indeed losing many. Suposing the baptisms were increasing at 10% per year and publishers increase was 2.5%. Surely that would mean that many were being lost.

  I totally agree it does show a 2.5% increase, but it also shows that many are leaving. These figures are not a science they are purely approxamate.

  For a more in depth picture of what we are speaking of, go to the jwfacts website where the figures are explained better than my effort.
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  Damn! how hard can it be to lose 8 pounds??!!!

  by Newborn in

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  i'm not at all overweight but would like to lose 8 pounds...it seems impossible!!!.

  i think my problem is that i don't exercise enough.

  however, i do walk or cycle to work every day.

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  alanv

  Strangely I have just lost 8 pounds. I bought myself a treadmill and did 30 mins brisk walking a day.

  The other thing I have done is cut out biscuits and cake (not easy)

  Sounds like your main problem is chocs and sweets. Maybe cut down on them and cut out biscuits and cake.

  Good luck
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  I've made the eye laser operation and I can highly recommend it!

  by Newborn in

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  now i'm free of glasses and lenses .

  (i've had bad sight since i was 12).

  the operation went so quick and didn't hurt at all just a bit sore after.

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  alanv

  Welldone Newborn. I think it takes some guts to have that done just because there is always a small chance it could go wrong. I have worn glasses for 30 odd years and I don't think I have the courage, but certainly it should encourage others to have it done when they here about successful cases like yours.
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  Worldwide Service Report for 2010 / Yearbook 2011

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wonder if anyone had a scan available of the 2010 annual report, which can normally be found in the 2011 yearbook.. .

  thanks in advance!.

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  alanv

  Factfinder I believe the society disfellowship around 1% a year. But these are still people that they have lost. Remember you don't have to be disfellowshipped. If you say sorry and admit you have done wrong you will not be kicked out. So those who are disfellowsipped and certainly those who disassosiate themselves wanted to leave. So it is still right to say that the society have lost these ones.
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  NEWSMAX - Jehovah Witnesses a publishing POWERHOUSE

  by Smoky in

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  2. scandals

  check out this link: http://w3.newsmax.com/a/oct10/jehovah/.

  i received this link from a brother "in good standing", though i could not decide if the article (oct 2010), was a good thing (to boost wt ego's) or a negative apostate type of information.. i was more suprised at the fact the it was in a rightwing political magazine.

  but what do i know.. any thoughts?.

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  I can't see anything objectional in the article. I don't think it has been written by a witness as it is really not written in a witness way.

  The one thing it does not say is that the vast majority of the mags go into the trash by people who just take them to get rid of the witnesses and also the millions that just get shoved through letter boxes at the end of the month because the witness has been not able to place them.
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  Worldwide Service Report for 2010 / Yearbook 2011

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wonder if anyone had a scan available of the 2010 annual report, which can normally be found in the 2011 yearbook.. .

  thanks in advance!.

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  alanv

  This is from an article under the subheading of Six convincing lines of evidence

  Sixth,thenumberofgenuineanointeddisciplesofChristisdwindling,thoughsomewillevidentlystillbeonearthwhenthegreattribulationbegins. Most of the remnant are quite elderly, and over the years the number of those who are truly anointed has been getting smaller.

  2000 Watchtower 15 Jan page 5

  Anybody convinced?

  The other convicing arguements are no better than this.
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  Worldwide Service Report for 2010 / Yearbook 2011

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wonder if anyone had a scan available of the 2010 annual report, which can normally be found in the 2011 yearbook.. .

  thanks in advance!.

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  alanv

  Just done some quick number crunching and most of the report does show quite good increase for them.

  However the interesting thing I found was the following

  Average publishers 2009 =7,046,419 Average publishers 2010=7,224,930 = 2.5% Increase

  Average baptisms 2009 = 276,233 Average Baptisms 2010= 294,368 = 6.5%

  So it shows 6.5% increase in baptisms and only 2.5% in average publishers

  So as usual they attract new ones but then lose many of them after their baptised
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  2010, the year in review….

  by onemore in

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  lets compile a list of all the significant events that took place in watchtower land this year, 2010. the new lights, wt quotes, developments, new procedures, etc.

  ill get started, just to mention a few.... 1) the overlapping generation.

  2) the death of two members of the governing body.. 3) the death of ray franz.

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  alanv

  I'm hoping to see the continuation of the decline of witnesses in Europe. Even better would be the rest of the world grinding to a halt in JW land

  Looking forward to someone posting a scan of the 2010 service report from the 2011 Yearbook. Who is going to be the first to do that this year?
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  The watchtower eats humble pie in trying to locate and reinstate all those wrongly disfellowshiped?

  by still wondering in

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  2. beliefs

  what happens when the rules regarding medical treatment are changed because it is now decided that the watchtower god does allows certain blood fractions after all but which formerly the wts said would offend him so much that offenders would be sent to gehenna?.

  blood serums are just one example.

  in 1954 the societys ruling on blood serums disallowed their use because using blood serums was displeasing to god.

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  alanv

  There was another really bad consequence of the societies changing their mind on something.

  For years JW hemophilics were told by the society that they could have one dose of a blood fraction but no more as that would constitute a 'feeding' of blood which they felt was wrong.

  They had told this to witnesses who had contacted them. After a while they changed their mind and decided it was ok to have what was necessary for them. So they contaced ones whoi had written in but of course could not tell the ones who had phoned in.

  So it may well have happened that many JWs died simply because the society had given them wrong imfo.

  Apparantly it was put into print 3 years later but not in a very clear way, and certainly not saying that they had any new light on this.

  Info on this can be found in Ray Franz book 'Crisis of conscience'
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  Letter from elders

  by Cynisister in

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  2. experiences

  the local elders have been trying to visit me (my hubby still attends meetings and he has told them i don't wish to speak with them), they left a copy of a watchtower (on helping inactive ones to return) in my door when i was not at thome, and this last sunday asked my husband if it's ok to write me a letter saying this is what they have to do.

  they can't freely stop by as we have large dogs that would keep them out.. does anyone know if this is going to result in my being df'd??

  i don't want that to happen yet as my husband's parents who are quite elderly, would be devastated.

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  alanv

  The disfellowshipping of course depends if you have done anything wrong from their point of view.

  If you simply privately disagree with their doctrines, there is nothing they can do providing you don't tell them or others about your true feelings.

  If they think you will be bad mouthing the org then they will do what they think is necessary with or without you.

  So basically don't give them any ammunition.