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  Interesting you tube video

  by alanv in

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  watching this video left me wandering a bit iif a person is wrongly disfellowshipped for whatever reason and they appeal against it and are then reinstated, would the elders actually announce in the hall that so and so has been reinstated.

  if that was so it would be pretty obvious to most people that the disfellowshipping decision was wrong, ie the elders made a mistake.

  has anyone here ever had that happen at their kingdom hall in the past.

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  alanv

  Watching this video left me wandering a bit Iif a person is wrongly disfellowshipped for whatever reason and they appeal against it and are then reinstated, would the elders actually announce in the hall that so and so has been reinstated. If that was so it would be pretty obvious to most people that the disfellowshipping decision was wrong, ie the elders made a mistake. Has anyone here ever had that happen at their kingdom hall in the past

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhCfmqhMs8
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  Did you ever know of a elder wanting montary comp for doing a sheparding visit?

  by highdose in

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  i knew an elder who would help and support those in the cong, but in return he expected some kind of compensation such as: goods brought for him or his family, services given for free etc.. this elder had a working class job but lived a very middle class life style because of this unspoken arrangement.

  great holidays, new cars and his wife was very much the queen bee of the cong.

  hardly wore the same thing twice and delighted in patronising the other sisters who she considered beaneath her.

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  alanv

  Most elders really believe that they are doing what is required of them, so I think it would be very rare for one of them to want some reward
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  2011 Yearbook: Singing Praise to Jehovah

  by pirata in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2011 yearbook, singing praise to jehovah, p.17-21:.

  singing songs of praise to jehovah is an integral part of our worship.

  at the 2009 conventions, therefore, god's servants were overjoyed when they were told of a new songbook, sing to jehovah.

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  alanv

  Can you believe it. Even their songs apparantly come from the gov. body. At least that is what they tell the sheep. I think in reality other ordinary JWs would do all the work and the old men would have given their blessing to it when it was finished.

  They like to show that everything comes from the gov body, when in fact most time it comes from editorial staff
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  could i walk into a K/Hall and get literature?

  by Aussie Oz in

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  2. friends

  just wondering!.

  i know many would say ''why the hell would you do that?".

  just wondering if i could actually get hard copies of some stuff for a 'donation' and not have to hunt it down.... mind you, i'd have a hard time making myself look conservative!.

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  alanv

  I supose you could do that. You would certainly need to have some balls to do it .Of course some literature is only for those in good standing.

  So no study copy of Watchtower, Kingdom Ministry, or some of the other books that are just for JWs.

  You could say that you already have the 2010 cd rom and the new elders book, as they are available online.

  Can you imagine an elders face if you said that (hehe)
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  What I think the next move is...

  by TheJigsUp in

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  i'll keep it short.. you're no doubt aware of the 'if the gb say something that seems odd, just go along with it' thing.

  and the 'do as the gb tell you!

  dont doubt the gb!

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  alanv

  Why would they say that? They have already said the anointed to not have any special insight. There view is keep at it until God intervenes.
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  Everything turns out the opposite to what they say

  by alanv in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when we were first introduced to the jws i'm sure like me you were very impressed by their claims.

  things like.

  1 god has a name.

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  alanv

  When we were first introduced to the JWs I'm sure like me you were very impressed by their claims. Things like

  1 God has a name

  2 JWs are the only ones preaching throughout the whole world.

  3 They show love to one another all the time

  4 We are without doubt living in the last days

  5 JWs base their religion totally on the bible

  Now many of us are out of the religion I was wondering how you view those statements now.

  Comments?
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  What crisis will set the W.T on a new path?

  by acolytes in

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  2. friends

  or what are the forces of inertia that keep jehovers witnesses from changing?.

  acolytes.

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  alanv

  As some have said before on this site, if future increase comes mainly from third world countries, the society will probably find less money coming in.

  I believe it has started already
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  Another Armageddon Thread...This Time May be for REAL?!?

  by Yan Bibiyan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with the ensuing unrest in north africa and the middle east, i wonder if some "zealous" brothers and sisters are saying: "this is it!!!"..

  didn't armageddon suppose to start in the mideast?

  isn't the unrest moving closer and closer to israel?

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  alanv

  There will always be witnesses that grab anything on the news to make their point. I guess many of us did the same when we were in. It didn't seem to matter whether Jesus or Paul had spoke of a particular trouble, we decided it must mean the end is just round the corner.
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  Something's been on my mind...

  by Vidiot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ..., and while i usually contribute in a thread that's already been created, i thought this particular topic might warrant it's own.. like many of you, on friday i was persusing the "concerned elder speaks" thread about higher-ed and the gb's ross/rachel relationship with it, and a couple of posts caught my eye:.

  room 215 - "that's it, boys; alienate the remaining elders, drive them to resign and exacerbate the shortage already underway.".

  baltar447 - "it's like they want fewer elders and servants.".

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  alanv

  At the moment the society is slowly grinding to a halt in Europe, but the rest of the world of JWs is still seeing increase. While that is happening, the money is still coming in. Certainly if the JWs in other developed countries wake up and leave, then the society will indeed be in serious trouble.

  Here's hoping.
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  With modern technology how long can the truly keep going?

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was listening to the radio yesterday and the dj's were talking about the kindle and ipad and iphone.

  they gave the number on how many are using them over reading books and news papers.

  one dj said you can put a thousand books into the kindle and off yougo.

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  alanv

  It's an interesting thought. If a householder said no to the magazines, do any of the witnesses tell the householders that they can read the mags online if they prefer.

  Presumably the society would be very against them doing that, as it stops the dollers coming in.