Posts by alanv

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In veiw of the future prospects for the remnant of the 144000 still living,wouldnt you think they would have a greater role in the running of a congregation ?

by smiddy in

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i just commented on another thread about the 144000 and thought it deserved a thread of it`s own seeing how important their appointment is .. those who are selected to rule with christ jesus in heaven are given immortality.

if you or i were selected to survive armaggedon we would not be given immortality , so obviously they are considered a cut above the rest of humanity.. so my question is ,why doesnt jehovah`s spirit directed organization on earth give these people the respect and dignity that jehovah god is going to bestow on them in the future , while they are yet present on earth , instead of ignoring them , and treating them as a lesser class of person than a pioneer ,ministerial servant, or elder.. and suggesting they may be influenced by prior beleifs or have mental problems doesnt say much for their bible education instruction , after all these are dedicated baptized publishers who are counted as the annointed remnant.. smiddy.

alanv

I know the society have said they do not keep track of proffesed members of the anointed, but surely they can get or have already the imformation from the publishers record card. Ceryainly a circuit overseer would know the names so why not the organisation.

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Huxley on how to control followers

by jwfacts in

i was just directed to a great website lettersofnote.com that contains many famous and interesting letters.

one is from huxley to orwell, and displayed at 1984 vs brave new world.

huxley made the following prediction in 1949 on how a government can control its followers, which seems to align with the methods used by the governing body.. .

alanv

They are good techniques, but even the Watchtower org can't hold on to it's youngsters once they come of age. You may remember that it is said that JWs have one of the most moblie religions. Meaning that most who are brought up according to the organisations rules , leave sometime in their adulthood.

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WTF Jesus doing last 98 years?

by Evolutionary in

hey, i left when i was 19 about 21 years ago over evolution.

dad encouraged me to look up the references in _life: how did it get here?

by creation or evolution?_.

alanv

You could also ask the question what on earth are 144000 going to be doing during the 1000 year reign.

If God is the creator he can do anything in the blink of an eyelid. No need to have 144000 little helpers.

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If the jw.org website is the start of the internet age for the WTS when will they sack all printing staff ?

by mP in

with the new website coming, does this mean they can fire many or most of their printing production staff ?

should these same staff be worried ?.

alanv

Any company that can get the same results on the internet as it did when it had physical buildings to maintain, are going to be a lot better off.

Amazon for instance is a massive sucess story not only for books but for many other things as well. If the society can get their flock to download the magazines themselves that would be a great result for them, and huge saving.

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JWFacts website is still topper the lists

by ramerico in

the jwfacts web site is still topper the lists of informative and objective websites about the watchtower jehovah witnesses.. seven years and still running strong.. .

alanv

It really is a great website for information, and most importantly statements there can be backed up with facts. I often go there myself to check things. Keep uop the good work Paul.

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Need some help guys on blood

by alanv in

recently on the topix website we have talking about blood transfusions.. it has been asserted by one ex witness that jws are now allowed to store their blood providing it is for a limited time.

for example the blood could be taken from the patient sent to the lab to have it cleaned or whatever, and then returned to the patient.

the november 2006 kingdom ministry was cited to back this up as well as a watchtower from 2000. my question is, are jws now allowed to store their blood for a current limited time?.

alanv

Thanks so much everyone. As usual though the society change something and most of the sheep have no idea whatsoever about it. I know if I asked my JW son he would not have a clue about current thinking on blood.

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Need some help guys on blood

by alanv in

recently on the topix website we have talking about blood transfusions.. it has been asserted by one ex witness that jws are now allowed to store their blood providing it is for a limited time.

for example the blood could be taken from the patient sent to the lab to have it cleaned or whatever, and then returned to the patient.

the november 2006 kingdom ministry was cited to back this up as well as a watchtower from 2000. my question is, are jws now allowed to store their blood for a current limited time?.

alanv

Thanks refriedtruth.

I did not know this. I always though if blood actually was taken away from the body to a different area, that it was a no no for JWs.

I bet very few witnesses know this. The artticles certainly seem to agree with you. I am trying to find a current JW that knows about it.

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Need some help guys on blood

by alanv in

recently on the topix website we have talking about blood transfusions.. it has been asserted by one ex witness that jws are now allowed to store their blood providing it is for a limited time.

for example the blood could be taken from the patient sent to the lab to have it cleaned or whatever, and then returned to the patient.

the november 2006 kingdom ministry was cited to back this up as well as a watchtower from 2000. my question is, are jws now allowed to store their blood for a current limited time?.

alanv

Recently on the Topix website we have talking about blood transfusions.

It has been asserted by one ex witness that JWs are now allowed to store their blood providing it is for a limited time. For example the blood could be taken from the patient sent to the lab to have it cleaned or whatever, and then returned to the patient. The November 2006 Kingdom Ministry was cited to back this up as well as a Watchtower from 2000. My question is, are JWs now allowed to store their blood for a current limited time?

Certainly they cannot store it for weeks or months before say an operation, but what about a few hours?

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Questions for former elders on Do Not Call

by Kristina1972 in

what is the procedure for requesting to be on the do not call list.

what happens when someone requests to be on the do not call list?.

does a letter need to be sent each year?.

alanv

Since I left 15 years ago, I had not been called on, even though I did not formally ask to be put on the do not call list. This year someone did call as they new my JWQ son and wanted to meet his dad. We had a good chat, but very soon she was trying to get away when she realized there was no chance of a conversion.

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I genuinely love them

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

i love these people so much!

we had kh cleaning last weekend for the memorial and it felt just like old time and brought back soo many memories...i share my struggles, my joys ...everything with my bros and sis... they are my friends...i really truly do love them...how can i leave?

that feeling just made me feel like abandoning all this reasarch and go on living blindly .

alanv

I too used to love the brothers and sisters, that is until I started questioning some of the views of the governing body. Once I started doing that all love towards me was immediately stopped and a very cold feeling existed between me and my so called friends. Because I could no longer agree with what I had previously been taught my close JW friends dropped me like a brick.

The love shown by JWs, is totally conditional on you obeying everything the governing body say.