I had not realized that she never got baptised. That is great news as she cannot be disfellowshipped, although I am sure witnesses would be told to shun her and to avoid looking at videos about her or with her in them.
Posts by alanv
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38New YouTube video: Candace Conti tells her story
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfhsewwd3wa.
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I wonder... Who are the top apostates the Watchtower HATES the most?
by Greybeard inno doubt ray franz is at the top.... paul grundy's web site jwfacts.com helped me the most!
thanks paul!!!.
randall watters from freeminds.org has got to be way up there.... who else?
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alanv
The point is well made that whenever we speak against the society we need to use their own publications and their own words. I try to do that always. That way you cannot be accused of lying or that it is 'just your own view'
There are articles on everything out there and with a little research we can use the societies own words to expose them for what they are.
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New YouTube video: Candace Conti tells her story
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfhsewwd3wa.
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alanv
Thanks for posting. It was great to see the face behind the case. She seems like a great girl. I notice it says part 1, so I am assuming there is more, maybe the question and answer session that probably followed her talk.
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alanv
Just had a look at the English version and yes the claw is there.
I have seen some of these weird pictures before, but certainly that is a claw not a hand. I would love to know what current JWs make of it.
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Watchtower Argues on Behalf of Jimmy Swaggart
by 144001 inthe wtbts filed an amicus brief in the u.s. supreme court case of jimmy swaggart v. board of equalization of california, and actually argued that swaggart should win this case.
in response to numerious requests i have received, here it is: .
http://kvisit.com/snsujag.
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alanv
Thanks for posting this, very interesting. In the Watchtower's defence the document does say twice that the society 'does not support either party in this case'
However their arguement is that it would be wrong for individual JW to have to pay sales tax. The arguement should have been about whether the Watchtower should pay sales tax. Although individual JWs may well give away some literature, the society had a fixed price that they charged the congregation members and there was no getting round that. I think the society realized that it was going to affect them rather than the individual JWs which is why in the end they went to the donation arrangement.
Talking about the affect on individual JWs was simply a redf herring which the court saw through.
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end times article in watchtower library 2011 cd
by rather be in hades in*** g95 6/22 p. 3 predictions of the worlds end ***.
anyone read this article?.
i love how it mentions that end times prophecies have been around forever and they've all failed.. goes on to mention william miller and 1844. mentions harold camping lol.
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alanv
I have not read the article but can imagine how it goes. They totally slag of others and completely miss the point that they are probably worse than anyone else when it comes to end times prophesies failing. Hypocrites.
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alanv
Sorry should have read '95% of things'
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alanv
Bobcat you are so right about the Watchtower deciding what matters are conscience. There are loads of things the bible does not speak about and yet the
Watchtowery determine how you should view it. Only a few things they leave for the witness to decide themselves. They would much rather dictate on everything, but 9% of things is not a bad percentage when it comes to control.
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Trying to talk to my mom - really discouraged, need help.
by rather be in hades inso, i'm new here and i've decided to finally tell my mom the truth about jws.. and sorry for the long post.
i'm at my wits end.. here's some background:.
i grew p in a congregation in california, i'm not a born in, though i was raised in it from 5 - about 20. arond 20 i pretty mch faded out, bt the emotional ups and downs were jst all too much.
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alanv
Hi rather be in hades. (hope you don't mean that)
It is actually a mistake that many of us make when we find the truth about 'the truth'. We tend to throw in everything we have learnt about the organistion to our loved ones who are still in..
The trouble is most things will be brushed off as old light and that they now have new light. One way round that is to show doctrines that had one meaning then changed then went back to the old meaning.
However the main way to get through to anyone is to show how God would not have chosen the Watchtower organistion in 1919 because they were no different to any nother religion at the time. And in fact their ideas at that time was even more wacky than many other religions.
It's great that you have realized yourself about the org, but maybe take it a little slower when explaining it to others. Great to have you on board though, and you will find life will get better for you now that you are finally free of the orgs lies and double standards.
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Who are the Jehovah Witness online apologist groups?
by Gros Michel no more inthe summer assembly was hot and sticky, it was long on rules and stingy on deep scriptures.
the speaker warned us about the online discussions of greek and hebrew, which are running ahead of the organization.
did you know there are brothers who are trying to check the accuracy of the new world translation?
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alanv
If you go to the Topix website and type in Jehovah's Witnesses, you will find several there that regularly post. The ex witnesses on the site regularly show up the apologists and you can check past topics that have been dealt with if you want to.