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What would you ask?

by pudgey1 in

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whats a good question to get a witness thinking about if they really have the truth?.

something about science/bible im not great on the subject so need help please

whyizit

You may ask on my behalf, because I really want to kow and have YET to receive a straight answer.....even if it is "I DON'T KNOW!"

Where does the Bible SPECIFICALLY and CLEARLY say:

1.) Jesus is Michael the Archangel

2.) Heaven is LIMITED to only 144,000

3.) "paradise earth" (I can't find it anywhere in the Bible.)

4.) where it says that we are suppose to go to an "organization" for salvation

Show me these IN THE BIBLE, without any other man's explanations of what they "think" certain verses should mean. These things should be clear and obvious, if they are infact what Jehovah would have us believe. Where in the BIBLE are they? Would Jehovah write a book about Himself in such a way, that very few could understand it? I do not believe so. That would be deceitful and tricky. I don't believe He is like that. Do YOU?

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Imagine Biblical heroes and what they might have said: Example: Moses.....

by whyizit in

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i know god has sense of humor.

i believe i have been the butt of a few of his jokes!

so when i saw this one, i just burst out laughing!

whyizit

I know God has sense of humor. I believe I have been the butt of a few of His jokes! :0)

So when I saw this one, I just burst out laughing! It's like I was there, ya know?!

And Moses looked upon the Lord and said: "We are your chosen people and you want us to cut the tips off of our WHAT?!"

Got any more good ones? I could sure use some laughter. Been working my tail off and having a lot of back pain. Not complaining, though! I love my job. I just feel a little underappreciated and over-worked sometimes. My brain just needs a little fun, for a change! My husband took up some of the slack and I have a whole couple of hours to browse and see what you all have been up to!

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UPDATE 2: Since Freedom is Free, Why is it Taxed?

by RichieRich in

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yesterday after school i had to go work on a project with friends.

mom said be home by 5, but there was a huge accident a mile from where i live, and i sat on the road for like 10 - 12 minutes, and was 5 minutes late getting home.

mom was there (didn't go to work- guess why) and she was pissed.

whyizit

Can you get DIRECT DEPOSIT for your checks?

If your Mom does go through with giving you the boot when you are out of school, you will need that money. This is an attempt to railroad you into submission. If I were you, I would look at myself like a foster child that is on the brink of "aging out" of the system. You need to prepare for that, and saving your own hard-earned money is your RIGHT. No one should be able to take that away from you, and I agree with the others, I believe it is illegal for your Mom to do so. You could actually sue her to get it back. Man, this would be a case for Judge Judy, wouldn't it?! (Can you hear her now? "I don't give a rats-behind what the "elders" told you to do, a Mother is not suppose to steal from her child! Do I have stupid on my forehead?!")

I saw a JW lady on one of those court shows and she said the "F" word right there! They bleaped it out, but you could tell what she said. She was talking about being on her way to KH, having car trouble, the mechanic didn't fix it right, and she told him to get the "F" out of her car. (Is it okay to say the "F" word in the JWs?) If not, I bet she heard about it.

Maybe you could check with friends at work and see if any of them has a pastor you could talk to. Someone who might be able to set you up with a place to stay, until you can get out on your own. Maybe even counsel you on how to deal with this whole situation.

Many prayers for you, and trusting that He will take care of you and give you the wisdom you need to flourish in this adversity. Stay strong and stay smart!

In Christ's Love,

Whyizit

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Jesus

by Honesty in

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do you believe he died for all of your sins?

whyizit

Actually, this was something I kind of struggled with, when I first became a Christian. I thought Jesus was pretty cool. I thought God was mean and angry. One wants to squish me over petty little things, the other wants to love me no matter what. I kind of thought of Jesus as a nice guy Who died a terrible death, and somehow it was suppose to be for me.

"But I'm not a "bad" person! I do nice things. I don't think I have done anything so bad that you would have to kill a guy for them. Jesus must have died for those really terrible people you hear about." That was the way I thought of it.

Then, finally...I got it!

1Peter 2:24--He bore (carried) our (PERSONAL pronoun) sins IN His body...... (Also, Isa. 53:5-6.) What did Jesus carry "in" His own body? "OUR sins." What sins would those be? Let's see: Have I ever stolen anything in my life? Have I EVER used God's name? Have I ever lied, ever? Have I ever lusted after someone? (Jesus said it is the same as adultry in your heart.) Basically, have I ever broke any of the 10 Commandments? Ever?

Ezekiel 18:4---"The soul who sins will die." So, I am responsible for those commands that I personally broke. Not for what my Dad did, not for what my brother did, not even for what Adam did, but for what I personally did to break God's laws. Which, being honest about it, I broke ALL of them. (I know, you are thinking, "Did you really KILL someone?"----Yes, I did. I loaned a friend the money to get an abortion. Also, I have hated a few people, and Jesus said if you ever hated someone, you are guilty of murdering them in your heart. I'm guilty.) I have a double condemnation of death. Not only have I inherited Adamic sin, but I have my own personal sins as well.

John 5:39-40----What did Jesus say we must do in order to have our sins forgiven? Read the Bible? No. He said "bear witness of ME,.... come to ME". Had I done that? Not really. I gave Him lip service, believed He existed, but never really trusted solely in Him to forgive my sins.

John 14:14 "...ask ME anything in MY name and I will do it." Jesus said ask HIM in HIS name and HE will answer.

John 10:28 "...I give eternal life to them..." JESUS gives eternal life, NOT "the Father gives eternal life "through" Me."

JOhn 6:45 "... Everyone who has learned from the Father, comes to ME." I am obeying the Father, by coming to Jesus.

Jesus has the authority to forgive sins. God gave him that authority, so we can have our sins forgiven. To look at Jesus as just a "nice teacher", or someone who did something so long ago, that it can't possible mean anything for me today, is dismissing Who He is and what He has accomplished.

After I finally understood these things, and truly did accept Jesus and trusted Him with my salvation, I finally got the peace and joy that eluded me my whole life. I have heard it said that there is a God-shaped hole in all of us. Jesus can fill it and I am living proof. People who knew me before, barely recognize me now. I was bitter and angry, depressed all the time, suicidal, hateful, nervous, uptight, filthy-mouthed. I didn't even want to be around myself. NOW I am a new person. I don't tell everyone I meet that I am a Christian, but sometimes they will just come right out and ask...."What is up with you? You are so warm and happy, and you were never like that before!" All I can say, is "It's Jesus!" It was certainly nothing I ever accomplished on my own.

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I got the call today, only one problem

by SickofLies in

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well i just got home and i have a message on my machine saying that there will be a meeting tomorrow at the kingdom hall at 8:30pm for my appeal.

however, they said on the recording that i will be responsible for getting my own ride there.

there in lies the problem as i don't have a car right now.

whyizit

I think I would save the money I would have spent on a cab, and take out a big ad in your local paper.

I am (or was) a member of the local JWs, and because I could not find transportation to the KH, they booted me out of the religion, without allowing me to be there and hear the reasons why. Not one person in the congregation would give me a ride to this important meeting! If you are considering a new religion and are looking for brotherly love and acceptance, I pray that you will keep my experience in mind. I am shocked at the treatment I have received, due to the fact that I have faithfully served for xxx years. (Then outline how many hours you have went door-to-door in all kinds of weather, how many donations you have received for them, the burden of keeping up with the dress codes, all the rules you had to tightly follow, the hours of reading, etc...) After all of this, I am now booted out and shunned. Dead to them. Marked for annihilation! And they think the Christian churches are evil! Man, they gotta be better than this.

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JWs: If the Bible is really all we need, then why all this WTS literature?

by whyizit in

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i've noticed when i ask jws questions, they keep handing me all kinds of booklets and encourage me to look in the reasoning book.

they do not answer my questions.

and why do they not refer me to the bible?

whyizit

I've noticed when I ask JWs questions, they keep handing me all kinds of booklets and encourage me to look in the Reasoning book. They do not answer my questions. And why do they NOT refer me to the Bible? Hand me a Bible???? Look it up in the Bible? Instead of these other books?

These are all books that men have written, that give their personal assumption of what these quotes mean, but in context of the Scripture, they often make no sense at all. It seems like some guy said, "Wow, this makes sense to me."...leafed through the Bible and then said, "Here's a Scripture that I can use to support it." Then expects the people he tells his idea to, to read HIS thoughts of how things are or should be, then quotes a Scripture to make it appear that God agrees with what he is saying, and never expects the people he tells this stuff to, to read the entire context and figure out that the Bible isn't talking about that in the quoted Scripture at all!

Say I'm a plant lover and wanted people to quit doing things to hurt the plants and ruin their environment. I could quote Bible Scriptures to support my ideas:

Jesus is the vine, God is the gardener. This proves that God loves plants! Jesus actually was a plant at one time. (John 15:1). God made plants before He made people (Gen. 1:11-12)! His original plan was for us to take care of them in a beautiful garden. (Gen. 2:15). There was one tree He made special and did not want the fruit plucked from. (Gen. 2:17) Then Eve did it! Not only that, she actually ATE the fruit! Thus, Jesus had to die on a tree, due to that sin. The tree of life still exists with God in His heavenly paradise (Rev. 2:7). If we believe in Jesus and protect all the plants as best we can, then maybe we can eat of it one day and live forever.

Now, if I have a group of sincere people who really love plants and are not very familiar with the Bible in the first place, I could really convice them of this, if I did the research. I know it is possible, because it is happening in many other areas. Clever men are convincing people of all kinds of things, claiming them to be Biblical and the only true way to God. Using this same process. They discourage them from reading or researching on their own...."Here, read this. (Only read the quoted Scripture, nothing around it. Lest you become confused, because Satan will try to throw you off, if you go out on your own trying to interpret this. Trust me!) Only I can help you understand, because you couldn't possibly figure this out without my literature."

When someone offers to study the Bible with me, I expect two, maybe three books to be on the table. Both of our Bibles, and maybe a Concordance. Nothing else. God wrote THE BOOK. He doesn't need help. He didn't get it wrong the first time. He didn't make it confusing. Why should we believe what anyone else has added to it? Doesn't the Bible warn us NOT to do that?

This is what I am seeing. I'm sure there are a lot of good intentions out there, but I've also heard what "road" is paved with good intentions, so .....

Has anyone else come to this same conclusion?

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What does 'accurate knowledge' have to do with worship and praise?

by AK - Jeff in

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not that the jdubs have the 'accurate knowledge' anyway.

but it seems to me that if i was the creator i would appreciate all who showed appreciation in song and word, no matter the level of accuracy.

just what the hell does that have to do with praising god when you think of it?.

whyizit

Praise and Worship = INTIMATE, PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE (a relationship!)

Accurate Knowledge = Intellectual Knowledge, from reading "about" someone or something. (Ask the Pharisees about this one. They had lots of it.)

Example: A sports fan has a favorite baseball player. He reads all kinds of facts about this person. Knows all his statistics. Collects his memorabilia. Etc....

This same baseball player has a son he adopted. The kid hangs out with him, eats dinner with him, talks directly to him every day.

Which of the two REALLY knows the baseball player? The guy who has a bunch of books about him, or the kid who is with him every day and is a member of his family?

How do you know Jesus or Jehovah? Do you talk to them every day?

It's good to know the facts straight from the Bible, but it doesn't help at all if you don't have the relationship!

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What First Pops Up Into Your Mind When You Hear "Jehovah's Witnesses"???

by minimus in

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now, i think "stupid".

whyizit

A hamster on a wheel. Getting no where fast, despite working his little butt off.

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What have you done for yourself lately?

by MsMcDucket in

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after reading greendawn's post, it made me realize that i do more for other people than i do for myself.

i put off buying things for myself and gave up doing certain things when my husband became ill... but, the one thing that i did do for myself and family was get all of us a computer.

having a computer gives me time to relax and roam around on the net doing random stuff.

whyizit

When I feel sorry for myself, because I think I do so much for everyone else and they don't appreciate any of it (waaah...sob) , I'll buy myself a pint of Ben 'N Jerry's Phish Food ice cream and eat the whole thing all by myself!

(Thankfully that doesn't happen very often, or I would have to go buy a size larger in jeans every so often. That stuff is loaded with fat and calories!)

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I WENT TO CHURCH THIS MORNING....

by Mary in

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after the distastful and depression memorial at the kingdom hall last wednesday night, i guess i just felt the need to go somewhere else this morning for easter so i drove around.......i was going to go to the presbyterian church but the service wasn't untill 11:00am....ditto for the lutheran and united churches too, so i ended up going to the catholic church (of all places!

) because the service started at 9:30am.

never been to a catholic service before, (except for one wedding and one funeral years ago).

whyizit

We went to church this morning. A non-denominational church. Christ Community Church. Welcomes anyone from any denominational background. Preaches straight from the Bible. Everyone is welcome to take communion, they don't pass around a basket for money (although I don't see anything wrong with that, because they give an accounting of where the money goes), they have donation boxes here and there around the church, if you feel led to contribute, no membership or pressure to "join" anything, but many areas of interest open to anyone who would like to participate.....NO PRESSURE!! I love it! You don't have to "perform". Dress in blue jeans or a suit, whichever. Sincere worship, hearing the word of God straight from the Bible, and the freedom to worship how ever you feel comfortable. It doesn't get any better than that. For the first time in my life, I enjoy going to church and look forward to it. I guess you just have to keep searching until you find the right one for you. Maybe read Toxic Faith first, so you can readily identify harmful practices.

Nothing wrong with Charismatic or Pentecostal Churches, per se, but I would steer away from them at first. They are a lot more radical than you are probably used to. Might be frightening to you. Baptists are pretty laid back. I came from a Catholic background, my husband from Assembly of God, two different ends of the spectrum! Baptist seemed to meet in the middle. Just keep visiting. You'll find the one that is right for you!