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  What is the deal with Moses? A rant on absurdity in the Bible.

  by Morocco in

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  2. friends

  the other day i was reading about moses and i came to the very popular part of the golden calf.

  but now, with a little maturity and freedom from the clutches of witness thought i can see some terrible problems with the bible.

  in the beginning of exodus 32 god is talking to moses and sees that the israelites have made a calf out of gold and they are using it as their god.

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  Morocco

  JK666, heh, I get it -- cause Moses had a speech problem... lol that took me too long to get
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  What is up with "YOU"?

  by Morocco in

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  2. friends

  i've always been curious, why does the new world translation always render the word you in capital letters?

  is is a subliminal effort to make a strong connection with the reader as though the writer of the scripture meant "you, the individual reading this"?

  in other words, is it an effort to force the scriptures to make a stronger impact?

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  Morocco

  hm, interesting -- they need to just get it over with and say "yall"
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  What is the deal with Moses? A rant on absurdity in the Bible.

  by Morocco in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the other day i was reading about moses and i came to the very popular part of the golden calf.

  but now, with a little maturity and freedom from the clutches of witness thought i can see some terrible problems with the bible.

  in the beginning of exodus 32 god is talking to moses and sees that the israelites have made a calf out of gold and they are using it as their god.

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  Morocco

  The other day I was reading about Moses and I came to the very popular part of the Golden Calf. But now, with a little maturity and freedom from the clutches of Witness thought I can see some terrible problems with the bible. In the beginning of Exodus 32 God is talking to Moses and sees that the Israelites have made a Calf out of gold and they are using it as their God. Note that this golden calf was Aaron's response to the people, it was his idea. So then God says “leave me alone Moses because I'm going to kill these people.” Then Moses talks God down and God says he won't kill everyone. Here is the interesting part. When Moses comes down the mountain he is furious and smashes the tablets, melts the calf and grinds it into a power then makes the people drink it. Moses asks Aaron why he allowed this to happen? Aaron's reply was, “calm down – you know how evil these people are”, which sufficed Moses and God. Here is the kicker, Moses is angry with everyone and calls for anyone who is dedicated to the Lord to step up, and the Levites step up. Then look at what happens in Ex. 32:27 – 29: (27 Then he [Moses] said to them [Levites], "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.' " 28 The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. 29 Then Moses said, "You have been set apart to the LORD today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day." ) There are a bunch of things wrong with his. 1. Aaron was never punished, verse 35 says: “And the LORD struck the people with a plague because of what they did with the calf Aaron had made. “ He struck the PEOPLE for what AARON did. So apparently Aaron had no blame. 2. Moses had JUST talked God out of killing everyone not long before coming off the mountain! 3. Why was Moses surprised with anger? Why was he shocked to the point of killing everyone and smashing the commandments? The Lord JUST told him what was happening a few seconds ago. 4. Apparently God doesn't stay true to his word, he just said he wouldn't kill everyone for the golden calf but then he kills everyone. So, in a concluding thought, it seems to me that Moses had complete control over what God said and did. It was almost as if Yahweh and Moses were the same person. Because Moses said to the Levites “kill” they killed. Moses says “the Lord says” and everyone agrees. If Moses says pay me money (Ex 30:11-15) the Israelites pay him money. The whole idea is wrapped up in one sentence said in the midst of the Golden Calf incident, it's in Ex. 32:25: “Moses saw that the people were running wild and that Aaron had let them get out of control and so become a laughingstock to their enemies. “ The people were not under control. Moses had pride in his enemies face and it was hurt. To Moses reputation was important and he wanted his enemies to think a certain way of him and his people. It sounds to me like Moses was just another Watchtower. One more person who has abused the idea of God and whored it out for the control and domination of peoples' minds. Moses was playing a game and had scores to settle with other nations, thats why he was so angry when he LOST CONTROL of his people. This is childish, simple, and pathetic and it is found in the Bible. By the way, apparently worshiping Yahweh in the exact way he demands, is far more valuable than “about three thousand” human lives. What selfishness. This is how Moses portrayed God? Sorry for the rant.
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  What is up with "YOU"?

  by Morocco in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've always been curious, why does the new world translation always render the word you in capital letters?

  is is a subliminal effort to make a strong connection with the reader as though the writer of the scripture meant "you, the individual reading this"?

  in other words, is it an effort to force the scriptures to make a stronger impact?

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  Morocco

  Why don't they render it, "you all" or something? I haven't read a NWT in a while so I'm a little rusty but I don't remember them making other words in captials. Surely there would be more words they would need to render differently, so why isn't half the bible in caps?
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  What is up with "YOU"?

  by Morocco in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've always been curious, why does the new world translation always render the word you in capital letters?

  is is a subliminal effort to make a strong connection with the reader as though the writer of the scripture meant "you, the individual reading this"?

  in other words, is it an effort to force the scriptures to make a stronger impact?

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  Morocco

  I've always been curious, why does the New World Translation always render the word you in capital letters? Is is a subliminal effort to make a strong connection with the reader as though the writer of the scripture meant "you, the individual reading this"? In other words, is it an effort to force the scriptures to make a stronger impact? Or am I just making stuff up? lol
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  Baptism, spirit and superstition

  by thinker in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  recently i started researching the bible concerning that most controversial topic: baptism.

  i learned from the bible that there are four types of baptism.

  there is water baptism, aka "john's baptism", which most of us think of when we hear the word "baptism".

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  Morocco

  Great topic. Brilliantly put.
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  Should we be DF'd for eating trans fats

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  2. friends

  wow....are you part of the gb and found that you have recieved "new light"?

  (jk)the donut shops will suffer for sure!

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  Morocco

  well if the GB doesn't want to be two-faced they would have to DF any witness for eating any fat -- trans or not. Leviticus 3:17 says: " 'This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live: You must not eat any fat or any blood.' " Fat AND blood -- apparently the GB missed this little no eating fat bit -- someone should really bring it to their attention. But, hey, it's not a sin yet -- so eat up fatso!
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  Signs of the Times -- New Orleans, Thailand, God, or Accident?

  by Morocco in

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  2. friends

  i've heard some people say that what happened to new orleans was an act of god a punishment from a higher power as the consequence of their sins.

  perhaps the tsunami that happened in thailand those years ago was also an act of god.

  we can go on and on about what could and what couldn't be acts of god but we won't.

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  It seems to me that most (resonable) people believe the way I do: it's mother nature not vengeful god. I don't believe these things are punishments. Other people do. Why? Why do people believe these natural disasters are a response from God? I think (imho) because people, in the Old Testament, claimed he was active daily in the lives of men, meting out punishments and prosperity. He no longer does these things today. The question becomes: Is the claim that natural disatsters are from God simply a desperate attempt at solving the enormous absense of his presence in relation to his daily activity recorded in the Old Testament? I'm not asking if this "Jehovah" ever existed, what I'm asking is: Are people trying to cling to the idea that God is still active in peoples' lives, the way he "used" to be, by blaming things like this on Him? Are they striving to answer "where is god?"
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  Signs of the Times -- New Orleans, Thailand, God, or Accident?

  by Morocco in

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  2. friends

  i've heard some people say that what happened to new orleans was an act of god a punishment from a higher power as the consequence of their sins.

  perhaps the tsunami that happened in thailand those years ago was also an act of god.

  we can go on and on about what could and what couldn't be acts of god but we won't.

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  I've heard some people say that what happened to New Orleans was an act of God – a punishment from a higher power as the consequence of their sins. Perhaps the tsunami that happened in Thailand those years ago was also an act of God. We can go on and on about what could and what couldn't be acts of God but we won't. The question is: do you think these things occur because of God's will or not? Why do you believe this?
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  The JWs still blind to the implications of the 1995 generation change

  by greendawn in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  in 1995 the wts as time finally caught up with them, they had to yield to the inevitable and admit that its hitherto interpretation of the so called 1914 last generation was erroneous.

  to all intents and purposes the end was indefinitely posrponed it could be centuries away according to the new explanation.

  yet the r&f do not seem to realise these implications and are apparently suffering from collective blindness they still believe the end is as near as it was before 1995, just round the corner.

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  Morocco

  sorry :O did I hijack the post? -- if I did then I offer my apologies