Posts by Shazard

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WAS JESUS BORN 1/2 BC?

by badboy in

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jesus was baptized in the 15th year of tiberius's reign(ad 29) when he was about 30.. that means he was born about 1/2 bc!.

If he was baptised ABOUT 30 years, then he was born ABOUT 1/2BC BTW do you know that there is no 0 year... so you can -1 more Year And knowing that Herod died 4BC I would suggest that Jesus was born 5-3 BC :)

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how this would work on JW?

by Shazard in

if you would preach him simple and plain "your wt teaching is leading you to the hell where you will burn thernally even if you do not believe in hell?

you do not believe that you have salvation, you have no guaranty of that, so you are not saved and never be!

" this is simply with big dirty boots over their tomatos?

Shazard

Well I am just talking about theory. As they just do not come to me, coz I guess I am marked somehow in their maps. I just wander that I am never been JW so I technically can't be apostate. So why do they avoid me anyway... they have come several times... once I had no time to talk to them later they did not came. May be my brother has informed them that I am actually dangerous for JW, coz I am very wellinformed christian I guess I could plant seed... and that's they are afraid of...

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What does "born again" mean?

by Country Girl in

to most of the people on here, the term "born again" reminds them of fanatical christians who try to impose their beliefs on all other people, have an agenda (which is sometimes co-mixed with politics), and want to convert the rest of the world.

to me, born again is of a different nature.

it's different from my understanding of it as a jehovah's witness, and it's different from my understanding of it as a baptist.

Shazard

CG

Am I opposing you? I totally agree :)

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how this would work on JW?

by Shazard in

if you would preach him simple and plain "your wt teaching is leading you to the hell where you will burn thernally even if you do not believe in hell?

you do not believe that you have salvation, you have no guaranty of that, so you are not saved and never be!

" this is simply with big dirty boots over their tomatos?

Shazard

Confession, this is not for "reaching them" but to plant the seed... seed which is truth and truth can set you free... only this truth shows God's anger

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What does "born again" mean?

by Country Girl in

to most of the people on here, the term "born again" reminds them of fanatical christians who try to impose their beliefs on all other people, have an agenda (which is sometimes co-mixed with politics), and want to convert the rest of the world.

to me, born again is of a different nature.

it's different from my understanding of it as a jehovah's witness, and it's different from my understanding of it as a baptist.

Shazard

oldiesman, country girl... strange... never seen you and still you define and describe this "born again" exactly I understand it... I guess we have the same Spirit!

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a look to Isaiah.

by mdb in

thus says the lord [yhwh], the king of israel,.

and his redeemer, the lord [yhwh] of hosts:.

besides me there is no god.. isaiah 44:6. how many persons are speaking in isaiah 44:6?

Shazard

Narkisoss
You wrote: What you obviously overlook is that most of these expressions, especially in GJohn, are equally applied to the believers
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This is da same error JW use so much. Choose one and only one meaning of some word and then render context to mean things in sync with that chosen meaning. When Jesus told that he and father is one Jews was ready to stone him... if he that would be for just "unity of teaching ideas moral" then what... Jews was not in unity? They thought that they are, so no stoning for such claims. Stoning is for blaspemy. So Jesus "me and father are one" should be observed in context. And in John 17 it is obviously unity in worldview but in John 1:1, John 10 John 14 Christ is revealing his nature. Same word, different context.

Same goes with Holy Spirit. JW does big claims about words "spirit" meaning etc. and just ignores simplest rules of understanding. That it is context whic defines which meaning of the word is implied, not otherwise.

As I told... most of antitrinitrians just do not understand definition of trinity. You can't refute something you don't understand!

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a look to Isaiah.

by mdb in

thus says the lord [yhwh], the king of israel,.

and his redeemer, the lord [yhwh] of hosts:.

besides me there is no god.. isaiah 44:6. how many persons are speaking in isaiah 44:6?

Shazard

>father and son and not even try to give a hint that they are not literally meant

Well actually gives! You just do not believe in such claims as "Who hates me hates my father" "who believes in me do not believes in me but in my father" "I and father we are one", "honor son as you honor father", "who has son has father", "father is in me and I am in father" etc. Noone can say this about his father. And antitrinitrians just plainly do not understand what YHWH means thus do not understand what even word "God" means. For them "YHWH" and "God" is like "John Smith" :) Also antitrinitrians can't understand simple hebrew idiom "Son of Men" and "Son of God" relationship. "Son of something" in hebrew means that this Son is of same nature of same "material" that this "something". Antitrinitrians has no problem to render "Son of men" to mean that Jesus is human, but at the same point they can't accept (coz just do not understand) "Son of God" similarity. And this similarity is told in John 5 and John 10, wheere it is very clearly shown that claim "Son of God" is equal to claim "Be Equal to God" :)

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how this would work on JW?

by Shazard in

if you would preach him simple and plain "your wt teaching is leading you to the hell where you will burn thernally even if you do not believe in hell?

you do not believe that you have salvation, you have no guaranty of that, so you are not saved and never be!

" this is simply with big dirty boots over their tomatos?

Shazard

If you would preach him simple and plain "Your WT teaching is leading you to the hell where you will burn thernally even if you do not believe in hell? You do not believe that you have salvation, you have no guaranty of that, so you are not saved and never be!" This is simply with big dirty boots over their tomatos? How JW reacts to this? Telling them thet THEY will be the ones who will burn!

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a look to Isaiah.

by mdb in

thus says the lord [yhwh], the king of israel,.

and his redeemer, the lord [yhwh] of hosts:.

besides me there is no god.. isaiah 44:6. how many persons are speaking in isaiah 44:6?