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  DID YOU KNOW THIS about the BIBLE?

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the oldest manuscripts are not considered the most reliable.. there are no "autograph" texts.

  none.. there are no "original" manuscripts.. no two manuscripts agree.. the bible as we know it only came together in the form it now holds because certain men decided it should do so.. neither jesus nor his apostles or disciples carried bibles.. the apostle paul didn't carry a bible and none of his letters were in any of the scrolls considered holy scripture at the time he was preaching and forming christian theology as it is now understood to be.. largely, what the bible is today, is the result of certain men with certain agendas who had the authority to make their project happen.

  they also had the power to destroy writings which did not agree with their agenda.

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  Cygnus

  Terry, you have it exactly right. I miss ol' Fred. You're a lot like him. :)
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  DID YOU KNOW THIS about the BIBLE?

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the oldest manuscripts are not considered the most reliable.. there are no "autograph" texts.

  none.. there are no "original" manuscripts.. no two manuscripts agree.. the bible as we know it only came together in the form it now holds because certain men decided it should do so.. neither jesus nor his apostles or disciples carried bibles.. the apostle paul didn't carry a bible and none of his letters were in any of the scrolls considered holy scripture at the time he was preaching and forming christian theology as it is now understood to be.. largely, what the bible is today, is the result of certain men with certain agendas who had the authority to make their project happen.

  they also had the power to destroy writings which did not agree with their agenda.

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  Cygnus

  God Terry, you missed out on one the greatest people to ever grace these boards, let alone planet Earth. Captain Of My Fate was his name (thus COMF). Those of us (and there were many) who considered him a close friend called him Fred. I sure hope he's doing great these days.
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  Scholar, I would like to know more about you.

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi scholar, .

  i asked you a couple of questions but received no reply.

  i actually was asking out of sincerity as i would like to know the answer.

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  Cygnus

  When religious people start referring to themselves in the third person, it's a good sign they're beginning to humble themselves and get their apologies ready. You Know has already done that with me privately.
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  Just had a great night with friends

  by Cygnus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we worked on music, i tried to play a little guitar even though my hands and fingers barely move, and we had a great time just talking.

  i'm a lucky soul no matter how many bad things have happened to me that weren't my fault.

  just thought a few posters here needed to know that i'm not involving myself in a giant pity-party.

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  Cygnus

  Thanks, guys. It was good, clean, sober fun and we all enjoy music very much. I'm surprised at how well I am doing emotionally not being able to play my guitar (something I've loved doing since I was eight) and losing my poor precious Marley. I guess I'm tougher than I thought but having the unending support of close friends and family, and of course those of you here who care about me, and most of all caty my special girl and if all goes right, my future wife, well all that is a giant help. Edited to correct a couple of spelling mistakes. Typing as I do is quite difficult.
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  Just had a great night with friends

  by Cygnus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we worked on music, i tried to play a little guitar even though my hands and fingers barely move, and we had a great time just talking.

  i'm a lucky soul no matter how many bad things have happened to me that weren't my fault.

  just thought a few posters here needed to know that i'm not involving myself in a giant pity-party.

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  Cygnus

  We worked on music, I tried to play a little guitar even though my hands and fingers barely move, and we had a great time just talking. I'm a lucky soul no matter how many bad things have happened to me that weren't my fault. Just thought a few posters here needed to know that I'm not involving myself in a giant pity-party. Edited to add (as also posted on Slippy's board): It's sad to me that all the nice previous posts and chats on my (and others') threads here and elsewhere are so soon forgotten and how some people (me included) can say things either in PM, in public postings, or on the telephone can come so close to ruining what were once such happy relationships. I'm really trying my best, guys. I need everyone to believe me. OK?
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  DID YOU KNOW THIS about the BIBLE?

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the oldest manuscripts are not considered the most reliable.. there are no "autograph" texts.

  none.. there are no "original" manuscripts.. no two manuscripts agree.. the bible as we know it only came together in the form it now holds because certain men decided it should do so.. neither jesus nor his apostles or disciples carried bibles.. the apostle paul didn't carry a bible and none of his letters were in any of the scrolls considered holy scripture at the time he was preaching and forming christian theology as it is now understood to be.. largely, what the bible is today, is the result of certain men with certain agendas who had the authority to make their project happen.

  they also had the power to destroy writings which did not agree with their agenda.

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  Cygnus

  Is Terry COMF incognito?

  I think what we have today as The Bible is pretty accurate, as far as textual criticism goes. The book itself disproves its authenticity.
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  DID YOU KNOW THIS about the BIBLE?

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the oldest manuscripts are not considered the most reliable.. there are no "autograph" texts.

  none.. there are no "original" manuscripts.. no two manuscripts agree.. the bible as we know it only came together in the form it now holds because certain men decided it should do so.. neither jesus nor his apostles or disciples carried bibles.. the apostle paul didn't carry a bible and none of his letters were in any of the scrolls considered holy scripture at the time he was preaching and forming christian theology as it is now understood to be.. largely, what the bible is today, is the result of certain men with certain agendas who had the authority to make their project happen.

  they also had the power to destroy writings which did not agree with their agenda.

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  Cygnus

  Satanus,

  Not for that exat reason, but if I were to get knocked over the hea and believe in Jesus again I would be a Catholic.

  PS: I'd like to start a new topic but the system says I have to wait 27 hours, and my last two attempts at replying here have been stopped by the software. How's about an explanation, Simon?

  Edited to add; ezekiel, thanks for looking up that article. It is, I believe, what I referred to earlier.
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  DID YOU KNOW THIS about the BIBLE?

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the oldest manuscripts are not considered the most reliable.. there are no "autograph" texts.

  none.. there are no "original" manuscripts.. no two manuscripts agree.. the bible as we know it only came together in the form it now holds because certain men decided it should do so.. neither jesus nor his apostles or disciples carried bibles.. the apostle paul didn't carry a bible and none of his letters were in any of the scrolls considered holy scripture at the time he was preaching and forming christian theology as it is now understood to be.. largely, what the bible is today, is the result of certain men with certain agendas who had the authority to make their project happen.

  they also had the power to destroy writings which did not agree with their agenda.

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  Cygnus

  I'm too lazy, depressed, tired, sad, sick, etc. to look it up, but I love how a c.1960 Watchtower brushes the whole argument aside and said that the Bible itself proves its authenticity and we don't need no stinkin' Catholics or anybody else to say what it is or isn't.

  Cyg, of the slept all day and just got up at 6:30 PM class
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  what songs do you want played at your funeral?

  by candidlynuts in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yeah its morbid... but since we're not gonna live forever like we thought we might the first half or so of our lives, we're obviously gonna die someday.. and i dont want " keep your eyes on the prize " played at my funeral.. (keeping in mind that theres no one thats gonna claim my body to bury it anyway when the time comes).

  i want " if you could read my mind" by gordon lightfoot.

  " carry on my wayward son" by (kansas?

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  Cygnus

  Don't care. Whatever my surviving family wants. I won't be able to hear it.
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  Trinity- True or False

  by defd in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i know from going door to door that people are generally divided as to who god is.

  what are your thoughts?

  is jesus almighty god?

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  Cygnus

  Well, I know people who would disagree with you, Tyre. None of us or anyone alive now was there, so who knows what was meant,